New RP Series Pedals
Anyone else picked up a new RP pedal?
I've seen a few posts here and there but nothing really in-depth.
I bought the RP350 a few weeks ago and so far it's been fun to noodle around with--especially since they finally released X-Edit 2.0 for it!!
It defintely is not the GNX4 feature-wise, but it does what it does very nicely. Has some great model presets and plenty of onboard storage for your own.
The other nice thing about the 350 model is the A/B amp switching and XLR outputs.
Anyone else??
I wonder if Guitar3456 might throw together a few patches...hmmm, just dreaming....
I've seen a few posts here and there but nothing really in-depth.
I bought the RP350 a few weeks ago and so far it's been fun to noodle around with--especially since they finally released X-Edit 2.0 for it!!
It defintely is not the GNX4 feature-wise, but it does what it does very nicely. Has some great model presets and plenty of onboard storage for your own.
The other nice thing about the 350 model is the A/B amp switching and XLR outputs.
Anyone else??
I wonder if Guitar3456 might throw together a few patches...hmmm, just dreaming....
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Very easy and to the point. Great sounds too. No amp switching just patch to patch. so I make clean and higher gain patches next to each other for switching to crunchy parts and solos. Its really working out nicely. l like the Audio DNA 2 sounds much better than my old GNX3 right now. I like the new exedit 2 but its so easy to find a sound with the knobbs I really havent used it much yet.
and that Guitar3456 wish thing ...Yea me too I would love to hear what he comes up with.
What's x-edit 2.0 like?
The interface is vastly stripped down and simplified. I don't really dig on that - stompbox mode was the whole reason I got into GNXs in the first place. It does sound pretty good though - but nothing to blow GNX3000 out of the water.
Have not seen X-Edit 2.0 yet.
I kind of thought these RPs were a stripped down version of gnx3000
technology.
* USB recording channels are 2 in, 2 out (GNX4 and 3000 are 4 in, two out)
* no stompbox mode (meaning no assignable footswitches either)
* highly limited deep editing controls on the unit itself
* no balanced outputs
* no mic in
* no MIDI control (drum machine basically the same as on GNX3)
* line-in only a 1/8\", unbalanced
Advantages I see - not necessarily for myself, but potentially for other users:
* overall simpler, less cluttered user interface
* easy to setup a basic sound - there are presets for two groups of effects: pre-noise-gate (pickup sim, wah, stompbox, compression, amp, eq) and post-noise-gate (modulation-delay-reverb) - you no longer have to understand each module to customize sounds quickly
* V-Switch sensitivity is adjustable once again (is not on GNX3000)
* 1/8\" headphone jack, can use cheap headphones with no 1/4\" adapter
* nearly instantaneous preset switching
* master patch level control (alongside the usual patch level)
* more effects and effect variations
* hardwired speaker compensation switch, making it easier for users to find (like on GNX4)
I have not used this thing extensively yet, but planning on it - so I'll keep you guys posted. Let's stickey this for reference, and other users can contribute.
From what I can see X-Edit 2.0 is basically the same as X-Edit 1.3, but tweaked for the new RP series.
The functionality is virtually the same for opening , saving and storing presets--still no way to move multiple presets at a time...Dohhh!!
In response to Iliace's disadvantages list The RP350 does have balanced outputs and A/B amp channel switching.
The xedit software is important with this pedal as the knobs are a great way to generally tweek something quickly, but the exedit software really opens the unit up. It allows the visual refrances and tweeking sometimes needed for multiple adjustments that equal 1 tone.
Here is my thinking, and correct me if I am wrong. If you are going to shell out $350 for the GNX3000, you might as well go a little further and get the GNX4, which I still believe is the best unit Digitech sells. On the other hand, compared to the GNX3000, you could probably get most of the same sounds you need on the new RP series pedals. Maybe the RP150 at $99 is all he really needs until he gets a whole lot better.
His goal at the moment, is to do some guitar/vocal recording in his bedroom. I don't believe any of the new RP pedals have a mic input, and that is a disadvantage. I am wondering if a XLR-1/4\" mic cable plugged into the RP150 would work or not for the vocal recording. If anyone has tried this, let me know how it worked. My concern is that the GNX3000 sound is probably not that much better than the new RP models and that the GNX3000 still does not have all the bells and whistles as the GNX4 which costs relatively just a little more. My nephew, and his mother, are looking at me for some sound advice (pun intended). I am to the mind either go all the way for the GNX4 or go cheap with the RP150. But then, I could just say that the all black GNX3000 is really cool looking and he would be happy with that.
Your thoughts would be most welcomed.
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1407901
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4139#
Introduction
Factory Presets
Tone Library
Effects Library
Conclusion
Hope this is helpful. Also, there is a demo of every factory preset for the RP250 on the Digitech web site:
http://www.digitech.com/RP250Demo/
1. I don't like the fact that the foot controlers are so close together. I keep hitting the other both in the middle of tunes...seperate them more.
2. I dont like the fact that if you dont hit the footcontrollers perfectly at the same time it shoots you off at lighning speed in whatever direction you happend have hit first... leaving you lost in the middle of you patches somewhere. It seems more sensitive that my GNX3. If you only have 2 controlers in the first place Just make the pedal where you press one controler and hold to get the tuner for cryin out loud :shock:
Just 2 things that are starting to REALLY annoy me about live preformance with this pedal. I am resorting to using it barefoot right now....and by the way I dont have big feet (10.5) and am not wearing my Gene Simmons \"Destroyer\" boots when I play either.
I think it's not because it's more sensitive, but because the switching time between presets is shorter.
for recording its set it and play The RP really shines its great but live you may want that GNX3000 if you want to shape your tone throughout the tune...like alot of us do.
Is the technology in the RP350 and the GNX3000 the exact same thing? I was under the impression that the GNX3000 has \"Component Based Object Modeling\" or something like that; whereas the RPx50 series is built on the AudioDNA 2.
Are they one and the same?
I had a chance to mess around with an RP350 Friday evening and it had some really great tones in there. Very limited as far as how you'd go about using it - but if you don't need to switch around a lot, it would be a decent stomper.
Let me know...
big +1 I think for a stompbox the x50 series rewlz!
Speaking of stomp boxes ...I tried out a \"Bad Monkey\" the other day...Must say I really liked what it had to offer too...might just have to get one and use it with my presounus tube pre for a more lightwieght bluesy rig.
I quite like it! The sound is a bit different than the GNX3K. The thing I like most about it (compared to the 3K), no patch switching latency.
Really nice, small footprint, practice tool.
Hope they roll out a GNX#### that utilizes the new technology sometime soon. 8)
Yeah, that is nice. Thanks for sharing.
I have a GNX3000 and it uses \"component based modeling...genetix\". It does not have the AudioDNA2 chip. I just ordered the RP150 so I'll get you more definitive feedback when I get a chance to use it.
I figured that this new X-Edit install might have knocked out the GNX3000 X-Edit, but much to my delight, this was not the case. When I patched up the USB cable to my GNX3K, X-Edit realized what MFX unit it was attached to and launched the correct software! WOW! I knew that something was up when I realized that the X-Edit install file for both the RP150 and the GNX3000 are the same. I would imagine that if I were to add another Digitech multieffects unit or guitar workstation to the mix, I get the same results.
The RP150 is very intuitive and it was very easy to enable/disable and edit parameters from the RP150 front panel. I like the way the presets switch instantly. In addition, hold either preset selector footswitch down and the unit rapidly scrolls up or down through the pres. and intelligently stops at 51 on the way up. The presets sound OK and are a great starting point for your tweaks. All the effects sound great and I feel the slick Lexicon reverbs alone are worth the price of admission. I really like the PCM drums and metronome, they help me keep my licks tight.
EDIT: Another thing I've noticed is that there doesn't seem to be any latency. I can feel a bit of a lag with the 3000 and I'm glad it's missing from the 150. In addition, the tuner is faster, more accurate and less \"wishy washey\". In addition, I've noticed that the noise gate seems to be a bit more delicate than my GNX3K whilst handlling the long tails of sustained notes.
I could go on and on but in terms of value for the money, the RP series are a real winner in my book... anyone that plays guitar would be nuts not to own one at this price point! I hope Digitech comes out with a workstation basied on the AudioDNA2 processor!