Whatever :roll: sure, come to Maryland, any of you. If you successfully approach a beautiful stranger, under any circumstances naked or otherwise, tell her she is beautiful, and have that interaction go anywhere towards getting with her (instant date, number that is actually valid and hers, her actually picking up the phone when you call, her getting a hotel room for the night and inviting you - whatever) - if any of that happens, I will pay for your trip here and back.
Whatever :roll: sure, come to Maryland, any of you. If you successfully approach a beautiful stranger, under any circumstances naked or otherwise, tell her she is beautiful, and have that interaction go anywhere towards getting with her (instant date, number that is actually valid and hers, her actually picking up the phone when you call, her getting a hotel room for the night and inviting you - whatever) - if any of that happens, I will pay for your trip here and back.
Really. This is \"reality\", not television. :roll:
I read an interview with a sexologist once (Laura Moore, author of S3x Heals). She said that many women have rape fantasies. But at the same time, none of those would actually want it to happen. This is an extreme example, but I think the analogy is the same: just because a girl is sitting naked in front of her window, does not mean she wants people to stare in her window or come knock on her door.
Women are weird, at least from our perspective. But one thing you can establish clearly: what she feels emotionally, any validation she receives hypothetically, will usually be overriden by her sense of physical safety. So do nothing to make her physically insecure, unsafe, or even uncomfortable around you. That's your first step of the way in.
Women are weird, at least from our perspective. But one thing you can establish clearly: what she feels emotionally, any validation she receives hypothetically, will usually be overriden by her sense of physical safety. So do nothing to make her physically insecure, unsafe, or even uncomfortable around you. That's your first step of the way in.
That's exactly it. Which was the point of starting this insane thread in the first place: it's not like I don't already have to deal with utter frustration with women...but to have something like that happen and not be able to do anything with it is just gas on a fire. :?
I just don't get it...
Man...Over 50% of the planet is women...
WTF shred???
If everyone out there had the same hang ups you got, we'd have been extinc a million years ago...
I can tell you one thing for sure...
You definitely aint gonna find any women, hanging on Guitar forums...
If you ever have a great guitarist come to BFE rocky mountains, look around the audience,, It'll be mostly guitar players, who mostly are dudes...
Try E Harmony...
local bars,
Aisan Massage Parlors...
Friday night singles gathering at the church..
Just about anywhere but a GUITAR forum..When's the last time you saw a chick post here, or on any of guitar forums out there..
So if you're really serious...
Go out and meet some people, rather than mope around on sites like this..
Duh... :roll:
I read an interview with a sexologist once (Laura Moore, author of S3x Heals). She said that many women have rape fantasies. But at the same time, none of those would actually want it to happen. This is an extreme example, but I think the analogy is the same: just because a girl is sitting naked in front of her window, does not mean she wants people to stare in her window or come knock on her door.
Women are weird, .
This thread is way to fuuuuunnnnnyyyyy !!! LMFAO
Let me see if I understand you guys correctly.... it's ok for a woman to indulge in public nudity, but it's wrong to say anything to her, cuz she really isn't looking for attention? She may fantasize about being raped and lay around naked in public view, but doesn't want to get raped.
So by the same extreme example. it's ok for a guy to lounge naked in his front window, whether he is fatisizing rape or not?? Or hoping for a hottie to knock on his door? ha ha ha I think not! Big town or little town that's BS and you all know it .. LMAO
Y'all know sooner or later someones gonna call the cops. And at the very least have an indecent exposure charge slapped on ya.
LOL heck shredd you said it. It's a small town no one cares poeple do what they want. Then you do it, lounge in your window totally naked! Seriously what else you got to loose. You said you don't even get out to the clubs. Maybe some hot lil queeny will come along and knock on your door! Or would that disgust you if she did? LOL Surely the cops and other citizens don't care! It's only a small town, not like the uppity types in the big city. LMAO
Can't wait to hear more justification about how wrong it is to go up to someone engaging in public nudity, To either get a date or get them to close the curtains LMFAO............ The really funny part is, the chicks I polled wouldn't even think of sitting in their window nude naked! So they don't have to worry about someone knocking on the door to say hi ....LoL
Eharmony? Been There. Bars? Not a drinker. Match.com, hotornot, AFF, Yahoo personals, yada? Done that. Parties, public events, library lectures, classes, clubs, sports, asking friends for setups, you name it. I'm not moping ANYWHERE. I'm not the life of the party or anything, but I'm not a total wallflower either. I just don't seem to be very good at women liking me much. If you've got the answer, gimme a call.
I hang/post here 'cuz I'm interested in music, dig my GNX, and (most of the time) have fun with it. Sadly, ain't no chix very interested in music. Musicians, maybe...
A big part of it is that I've lived for many years in small mountain towns, which 1) I like, and 2) is where the kind of people I work for live. I've had to make some tradeoffs for the career I'm in, which is pretty good even in good times, let alone now, with the world economy swirling the bowl and people breaking open their piggy banks to buy socks for the kids. It's a cool line of work with a helluva lot of upside...except I usually live in places where women are a little scarcer and not particularly interested in men, compared to other things.
But, hey, you guys have heard all this crape before, and it doesn't change anything. I don't want to have to defend my life choices. I know that there's at least ONE woman in the world - maybe lots of women - that'd really dig me if they met me. I just wanna meet some of these women, that's all. I'm tired of meeting women that treat me like they're doing me some kind of special favor by smiling or saying hello back. :roll:
. I know that there's at least ONE woman in the world - maybe lots of women - that'd really dig me if they met me. I just wanna meet some of these women, :roll:
Perhaps you have met them ..... But it's your criteria in woman that won't let you get involved with one of them. Loosen your standards a bit... and or you just can't read the signs... if it ain't a hollywood infactuated look in her eyes.. LoL or she don't just reach over and grabs you by the scrotum.
So by the same extreme example. it's ok for a guy to lounge naked in his front window, whether he is fatisizing rape or not?? Or hoping for a hottie to knock on his door? ha ha ha I think not! Big town or little town that's BS and you all know it .. LMAO
Y'all know sooner or later someones gonna call the cops. And at the very least have an indecent exposure charge slapped on ya.
See, that's the difference. You're comparing a guy's emotional world, and a girl's emotional world, which is apples and oranges. If a guy has that fantasy, chances are he wants it to come true - especially if the raping party is a girl. That's just not the same for women. To a guy, an emotion is something we brush off like a fly. To a girl, emotions comprise an ocean by which she is constantly surrounded, and it motivates her actions and colors her entire life experience. If you don't dig that, then we're just not on the same page. It's something you have to accept and appreciate, before you become successful with women. And if you disagree, I have to assume that (no offense) you (a) got lucky once or twice in the past for no good reason, (b) have low standards, or (c) both a and b.
I don't know the caliber of women you're dealing with. I'm talking about the ones that I would consider at least a decent combination of physically attractive, intelligent, and emotionally stable, that I would, theoretically, consider for a life partner. Those are the only types I would even ask a hypothetical question like we have going here. Perhaps your selection is somewhat different, and you care about other things and have different motives.
For the record, a girl who actively displays her body to the world (be it in the comfort of her own home) in hopes of getting some, is not on my list of prospects. Her motivation is what makes the difference. Most women just want to feel sexy. Feel. Key word. It has to do with what she's experiencing inside, not what goes through your head when you see her.
There are women who are desperate enough to present themselves in hopes of guys hopping on it. Sure, well enough. It won't be me. It can be you. Or, maybe she's hoping her feminine viles will entice you to pay money for it. We all know what that's called.
You've been to a strip club at least once, I'm assuming. Plenty of well-exposed women, whether you pay them or not (at least in DC). All of them stunningly beautiful. They want none of you. They want your money. They'll pretend that you're something more than a low-life, unless you prove otherwise, to get the money from you. You can tell her that she's the most beautiful woman in the world, all night long - she hears it every day. She knows she is, at least one of them. She's desynthetized to it. That does nothing for her. She has value for you, but you're just another guy who likes the look of her goodies. Again, an extreme example, but it goes to illustrate my point.
Also, I wanted to mention before - no girl, in an interaction with what she perceives is a desperate man, will blow you off directly. Yes, she'll take your compliment. If you don't come off as a 100% certainly peeping tom/stalker/rapist type, she'll let you buy lunch, dinner, drinks, flowers - whatever. That does not mean that she'll put out, or date you on a prolonged basis. It's just a \"nice\" way of blowing you off - she doesn't have to feel as bad about it. If you keep it up and she's just not into it, I guarantee that soon enough, she'll do what she must to change her number, address, or list of people on her restraining order to include you.
Who says you have to be a drinker? Being sober in the bar with lots of drunk women is the best position you can have! Just don't be the wallflower.
That was difficult for me to say. I like drinking. But, in a bar, when I'm trying to meet other people (women included), I'd rather have as few drinks as my tolerance allows me to still be sober.
OK: I finally got tired of all of this BS and decided to conduct a field experiment. I re-enacted Shredd's fact scenario and added the fact pattern of the guy going up to the door after passing by the window.
Got my wife to to play the part of the naked chick sunning in the window (the window that overlooks our backyard and I was outside about 20 yards away playing the part of Shredd walking up the sidewalk).
OK, so I look in the window and see this beautiful, lean, leggy babe completely naked and sunning herself. I go up to the door (actually patio door), knock and introduce myself and tell her \"I happened to be walking by and.........\" Anyway, did I get a look like \"go away perv\"? or a door slammed in my face? Nooooooooo, she smiled and invited me in and....well, I'll stop there, but damn!
Anyway, I think that seals the dispute and I certainly didn't get a slug in the chest or tagged with the perv label.
Oh and thanks Shredd for giving me some more ideas on how to keep the marriage fresh. :P :P
. I know that there's at least ONE woman in the world - maybe lots of women - that'd really dig me if they met me. I just wanna meet some of these women, :roll:
Perhaps you have met them ..... But it's your criteria in woman that won't let you get involved with one of them. Loosen your standards a bit... and or you just can't read the signs... if it ain't a hollywood infactuated look in her eyes.. LoL or she don't just reach over and grabs you by the scrotum.
I don't think you get it.
For all my bluster about lusting for Anne, inviting Shania into my hot tub, longing for Liz, craving Cameron...
I KNOW what's realistic.My standards are exactly that - standards. I'd rather be alone and content in life than be stuck with Rosie O'Donnell's fugly cousin. But the fact is - and I've written this before - I only need one good woman. Smart, pretty, best friend, good sense of humor - and gives half a dam about me.
I put out great effort to be friendly, civil, and respectful when I meet women. And I usually get along with them well. I'm a decent, personable guy.
What I don't get is scrotum-grabbing. That's fine. I just want to meet a girl that'll show some shred of genuine interest in me, instead of blowing me off for a walk with her dog or a sale at the candle shop.
The only good thing about this thread, is that I have deduced that our kids, when they begin to frequent this board, wont have to worry about a Shredd Jr. pining away...
. I know that there's at least ONE woman in the world - maybe lots of women - that'd really dig me if they met me. I just wanna meet some of these women, :roll:
Perhaps you have met them ..... But it's your criteria in woman that won't let you get involved with one of them. Loosen your standards a bit... and or you just can't read the signs... if it ain't a hollywood infactuated look in her eyes.. LoL or she don't just reach over and grabs you by the scrotum.
I don't think you get it.
For all my bluster about lusting for Anne, inviting Shania into my hot tub, longing for Liz, craving Cameron...
I KNOW what's realistic.My standards are exactly that - standards. I'd rather be alone and content in life than be stuck with Rosie O'Donnell's fugly cousin. But the fact is - and I've written this before - I only need one good woman. Smart, pretty, best friend, good sense of humor - and gives half a dam about me.
I put out great effort to be friendly, civil, and respectful when I meet women. And I usually get along with them well. I'm a decent, personable guy.
What I don't get is scrotum-grabbing. That's fine. I just want to meet a girl that'll show some shred of genuine interest in me, instead of blowing me off for a walk with her dog or a sale at the candle shop.
Ya I do get it and so do you !! So don't go there brother! You know I wasn't talking about you chasing down right ugly and big woman. Though there are those that perfer big woman I don't knock 'em, to each there own.
I was merely stating that if you dismiss someone cuz they have a little bit of a muffin top or her butt pertrudes slightly or her chest isn't big enough etc. Then maybe your standards are to tight even though her personality was great or great match to you! You didn't get the scrotum comment .. LMAO Really?... It was just a reference to a chick being direct, as in Hey I like you! LoL
Hey Illiace . ya your right we ain't on the same page .. LoL I wasn't nor do I give a flying... ... about woman being from venus and men from earth ( mars ) or how they are wired .LoL I know most womans idea of a romantic evening, isn't going out to a juke joint doing a shot and a beer, then heading to the back seat of the car! . Lmao my veiw on this was/is if one ( male or female ) wants to expose themselves to the world which ain't normal behavior, then expect an abnormal response or a public indency charge!
A freakin dope head breaks into your house while your sleeping, you wake up, you going to stop and give thought to his mental make up or react to the situation at hand? May be a bad analogy .. but get my drift?
On the statement about woman being able to sense desparation and or insecuredness. Thru out my life everytime I got involved with someone it seemed chicks would hit on me left and right When I was on the hunt, seemed I had to work harder to captivate them... LoL It has been 15 yrs now for me! And take my committment/s serious, So I don't play the field. But dang if I don't think about it . so many times oppoertunity has been there but.... I have to remind myself I have an ole lady that loves me as I do her...... If it wasn't for her I would probably be dead from aids by now... Glad I'm not on the hunt anymore!
The only good thing about this thread, is that I have deduced that our kids, when they begin to frequent this board, wont have to worry about a Shredd Jr. pining away...
The only good thing about this thread, is that I have deduced that our kids, when they begin to frequent this board, wont have to worry about a Shredd Jr. pining away...
Just don't think that ones in the cards...
Let me know if these nice ladies aren't what you're looking for...I'll keep looking around if you need me to...
No thanks necesarry... Just call me the \"Matchmaker\"...
Uh...better keep lookin'. I know I'm gonna be. :shock: :shock:
For those of you utterly riveted with this fascinating series of events... :roll:
I was in town again today, and sure 'nuff, there she was. 3rd time in a week; I'm betting she's there every day. Every sunny day, anyway. LAWDY she's hott. Pretty young though (I finally managed to notice :oops:)
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Reality is subjective.
I read an interview with a sexologist once (Laura Moore, author of S3x Heals). She said that many women have rape fantasies. But at the same time, none of those would actually want it to happen. This is an extreme example, but I think the analogy is the same: just because a girl is sitting naked in front of her window, does not mean she wants people to stare in her window or come knock on her door.
Women are weird, at least from our perspective. But one thing you can establish clearly: what she feels emotionally, any validation she receives hypothetically, will usually be overriden by her sense of physical safety. So do nothing to make her physically insecure, unsafe, or even uncomfortable around you. That's your first step of the way in.
Man...Over 50% of the planet is women...
WTF shred???
If everyone out there had the same hang ups you got, we'd have been extinc a million years ago...
I can tell you one thing for sure...
You definitely aint gonna find any women, hanging on Guitar forums...
If you ever have a great guitarist come to BFE rocky mountains, look around the audience,, It'll be mostly guitar players, who mostly are dudes...
Try E Harmony...
local bars,
Aisan Massage Parlors...
Friday night singles gathering at the church..
Just about anywhere but a GUITAR forum..When's the last time you saw a chick post here, or on any of guitar forums out there..
So if you're really serious...
Go out and meet some people, rather than mope around on sites like this..
Duh... :roll:
This thread is way to fuuuuunnnnnyyyyy !!!
Let me see if I understand you guys correctly.... it's ok for a woman to indulge in public nudity, but it's wrong to say anything to her, cuz she really isn't looking for attention? She may fantasize about being raped and lay around naked in public view, but doesn't want to get raped.
So by the same extreme example. it's ok for a guy to lounge naked in his front window, whether he is fatisizing rape or not?? Or hoping for a hottie to knock on his door? ha ha ha I think not! Big town or little town that's BS and you all know it .. LMAO
Y'all know sooner or later someones gonna call the cops. And at the very least have an indecent exposure charge slapped on ya.
LOL heck shredd you said it. It's a small town no one cares poeple do what they want. Then you do it, lounge in your window totally naked! Seriously what else you got to loose. You said you don't even get out to the clubs. Maybe some hot lil queeny will come along and knock on your door! Or would that disgust you if she did? LOL Surely the cops and other citizens don't care! It's only a small town, not like the uppity types in the big city. LMAO
Can't wait to hear more justification about how wrong it is to go up to someone engaging in public nudity, To either get a date or get them to close the curtains LMFAO............ The really funny part is, the chicks I polled wouldn't even think of sitting in their window nude naked! So they don't have to worry about someone knocking on the door to say hi ....LoL
I hang/post here 'cuz I'm interested in music, dig my GNX, and (most of the time) have fun with it. Sadly, ain't no chix very interested in music. Musicians, maybe...
A big part of it is that I've lived for many years in small mountain towns, which 1) I like, and 2) is where the kind of people I work for live. I've had to make some tradeoffs for the career I'm in, which is pretty good even in good times, let alone now, with the world economy swirling the bowl and people breaking open their piggy banks to buy socks for the kids. It's a cool line of work with a helluva lot of upside...except I usually live in places where women are a little scarcer and not particularly interested in men, compared to other things.
But, hey, you guys have heard all this crape before, and it doesn't change anything. I don't want to have to defend my life choices. I know that there's at least ONE woman in the world - maybe lots of women - that'd really dig me if they met me. I just wanna meet some of these women, that's all. I'm tired of meeting women that treat me like they're doing me some kind of special favor by smiling or saying hello back. :roll:
Perhaps you have met them ..... But it's your criteria in woman that won't let you get involved with one of them. Loosen your standards a bit... and or you just can't read the signs... if it ain't a hollywood infactuated look in her eyes.. LoL or she don't just reach over and grabs you by the scrotum.
See, that's the difference. You're comparing a guy's emotional world, and a girl's emotional world, which is apples and oranges. If a guy has that fantasy, chances are he wants it to come true - especially if the raping party is a girl. That's just not the same for women. To a guy, an emotion is something we brush off like a fly. To a girl, emotions comprise an ocean by which she is constantly surrounded, and it motivates her actions and colors her entire life experience. If you don't dig that, then we're just not on the same page. It's something you have to accept and appreciate, before you become successful with women. And if you disagree, I have to assume that (no offense) you (a) got lucky once or twice in the past for no good reason, (b) have low standards, or (c) both a and b.
I don't know the caliber of women you're dealing with. I'm talking about the ones that I would consider at least a decent combination of physically attractive, intelligent, and emotionally stable, that I would, theoretically, consider for a life partner. Those are the only types I would even ask a hypothetical question like we have going here. Perhaps your selection is somewhat different, and you care about other things and have different motives.
For the record, a girl who actively displays her body to the world (be it in the comfort of her own home) in hopes of getting some, is not on my list of prospects. Her motivation is what makes the difference. Most women just want to feel sexy. Feel. Key word. It has to do with what she's experiencing inside, not what goes through your head when you see her.
There are women who are desperate enough to present themselves in hopes of guys hopping on it. Sure, well enough. It won't be me. It can be you. Or, maybe she's hoping her feminine viles will entice you to pay money for it. We all know what that's called.
You've been to a strip club at least once, I'm assuming. Plenty of well-exposed women, whether you pay them or not (at least in DC). All of them stunningly beautiful. They want none of you. They want your money. They'll pretend that you're something more than a low-life, unless you prove otherwise, to get the money from you. You can tell her that she's the most beautiful woman in the world, all night long - she hears it every day. She knows she is, at least one of them. She's desynthetized to it. That does nothing for her. She has value for you, but you're just another guy who likes the look of her goodies. Again, an extreme example, but it goes to illustrate my point.
Also, I wanted to mention before - no girl, in an interaction with what she perceives is a desperate man, will blow you off directly. Yes, she'll take your compliment. If you don't come off as a 100% certainly peeping tom/stalker/rapist type, she'll let you buy lunch, dinner, drinks, flowers - whatever. That does not mean that she'll put out, or date you on a prolonged basis. It's just a \"nice\" way of blowing you off - she doesn't have to feel as bad about it. If you keep it up and she's just not into it, I guarantee that soon enough, she'll do what she must to change her number, address, or list of people on her restraining order to include you.
That was difficult for me to say. I like drinking. But, in a bar, when I'm trying to meet other people (women included), I'd rather have as few drinks as my tolerance allows me to still be sober.
Got my wife to to play the part of the naked chick sunning in the window (the window that overlooks our backyard and I was outside about 20 yards away playing the part of Shredd walking up the sidewalk).
OK, so I look in the window and see this beautiful, lean, leggy babe completely naked and sunning herself. I go up to the door (actually patio door), knock and introduce myself and tell her \"I happened to be walking by and.........\" Anyway, did I get a look like \"go away perv\"? or a door slammed in my face? Nooooooooo, she smiled and invited me in and....well, I'll stop there, but damn!
Anyway, I think that seals the dispute and I certainly didn't get a slug in the chest or tagged with the perv label.
Oh and thanks Shredd for giving me some more ideas on how to keep the marriage fresh. :P :P
JV
For all my bluster about lusting for Anne, inviting Shania into my hot tub, longing for Liz, craving Cameron...
I KNOW what's realistic.My standards are exactly that - standards. I'd rather be alone and content in life than be stuck with Rosie O'Donnell's fugly cousin. But the fact is - and I've written this before - I only need one good woman. Smart, pretty, best friend, good sense of humor - and gives half a dam about me.
I put out great effort to be friendly, civil, and respectful when I meet women. And I usually get along with them well. I'm a decent, personable guy.
What I don't get is scrotum-grabbing. That's fine. I just want to meet a girl that'll show some shred of genuine interest in me, instead of blowing me off for a walk with her dog or a sale at the candle shop.
The only good thing about this thread, is that I have deduced that our kids, when they begin to frequent this board, wont have to worry about a Shredd Jr. pining away...
Just don't think that ones in the cards...
Ya I do get it and so do you !! So don't go there brother! You know I wasn't talking about you chasing down right ugly and big woman. Though there are those that perfer big woman I don't knock 'em, to each there own.
I was merely stating that if you dismiss someone cuz they have a little bit of a muffin top or her butt pertrudes slightly or her chest isn't big enough etc. Then maybe your standards are to tight even though her personality was great or great match to you! You didn't get the scrotum comment .. LMAO Really?... It was just a reference to a chick being direct, as in Hey I like you! LoL
Hey Illiace . ya your right we ain't on the same page .. LoL I wasn't nor do I give a flying... ... about woman being from venus and men from earth ( mars ) or how they are wired .LoL I know most womans idea of a romantic evening, isn't going out to a juke joint doing a shot and a beer, then heading to the back seat of the car! . Lmao my veiw on this was/is if one ( male or female ) wants to expose themselves to the world which ain't normal behavior, then expect an abnormal response or a public indency charge!
A freakin dope head breaks into your house while your sleeping, you wake up, you going to stop and give thought to his mental make up or react to the situation at hand? May be a bad analogy .. but get my drift?
On the statement about woman being able to sense desparation and or insecuredness. Thru out my life everytime I got involved with someone it seemed chicks would hit on me left and right When I was on the hunt, seemed I had to work harder to captivate them... LoL It has been 15 yrs now for me! And take my committment/s serious, So I don't play the field. But dang if I don't think about it . so many times oppoertunity has been there but.... I have to remind myself I have an ole lady that loves me as I do her...... If it wasn't for her I would probably be dead from aids by now... Glad I'm not on the hunt anymore!
Ouuccchhhh!
Like I'd let my kids hang out here!?!
Possibly the women you're after have too high a standards..
After an 'Exahastive\" search... I have found some candidates....
Check em' out..
This one only wants you to \"Looka likea man\"..(Got that one covered, right???)..
This one's not much of a conversationalist, but that could turn out to be a good thing..
If you want somebody, who's a little bit wilder...I really think this is the girl for you....
Let me know if these nice ladies aren't what you're looking for...I'll keep looking around if you need me to...
No thanks necesarry... Just call me the \"Matchmaker\"...
For those of you utterly riveted with this fascinating series of events... :roll:
I was in town again today, and sure 'nuff, there she was. 3rd time in a week; I'm betting she's there every day. Every sunny day, anyway.
LAWDY she's hott. Pretty young though (I finally managed to notice :oops:)
Well another Shredd thread that has made it past 5 pages.
Fascinating reading though.
JV
Missed that one .. LOL