Check your help files for synchronization.If I understand it correctly your project will either be timed by your computer or your soundcrd.
Perhaps this why you might be having timing issues.Try using one or the other only.Selections are made in the project options dialog box.
The help files will explain it better than me.
I do know that there are master clocks that are sold(I do believe they are expensive)to remedy this.
I think you are dead on with the diagnosis of the problem. It appears that the soundcard GM midi voices are clocked by the soundcard and the VST tracks are clocked by the PC clock, if I have that right. At any rate, there appears to be two separate clocks running, which is why the Steinberg forum guys recommended me either using all soundcard GM midi or all VST tracks, and not trying to mix the two. Your theory on the separate clocks would make sense. I'll have to dig around and see if there is some way to turn on one master clock to run everything. I was under the impression that Cubase took into consideration the latency associated with VST tracks, but that might only be in relation to audio tracks, and not soundcard GM midi voice playback. Good suggestion. I'll dig deeper and see if I can find a master clock type solution. Thanks.
Seems like a clock issue to me. Was there a difference using PTP? You might be getting clock latency from the MIDI>USB streaming. Then again, it could be your computer resources, setups, optimization etc.
NI Bandstand as I said is more as a standalone Midi player with NI sound fonts that replace GM. Bandstand takes a GM file of multiple tracks, and applies a common sound based on assigned midi CH's in that midi file.
You don't really want GM sound sets. Use the Proteus stuff!! GM is horrid!
Sonivox has a series of replacement GM type files. IIRC there are about 6 banks of 127 files with that set. Been a while, so they may not even have them any more.
Have you tried FL Studio? Base version is free, but you can't save projects unless you register it (pay for it).
Seems like a clock issue to me. Was there a difference using PTP? You might be getting clock latency from the MIDI>USB streaming. Then again, it could be your computer resources, setups, optimization etc.
NI Bandstand as I said is more as a standalone Midi player with NI sound fonts that replace GM. Bandstand takes a GM file of multiple tracks, and applies a common sound based on assigned midi CH's in that midi file.
You don't really want GM sound sets. Use the Proteus stuff!! GM is horrid!
Sonivox has a series of replacement GM type files. IIRC there are about 6 banks of 127 files with that set. Been a while, so they may not even have them any more.
Have you tried FL Studio? Base version is free, but you can't save projects unless you register it (pay for it).
I haven't tried VST plugins in PTP yet. Cubase LE 4 supports VST plugins without having to use a wrapper, and since I am recording the band with my Zoom HD16CD multi-track recorder, I have been using Cubase. The Zoom works great with Cubase and also doubles as a control surface while working within Cubase - Cool!
The timing problems I have are with playing GM midi voices through the computer soundcard and VSTs at the same time. So it does not have anything to do with sending the data out the USB cable and back. It's all within the computer. But others have told me that mixing the two methods does not work for them either.
When you say \"GM sound sets\" do you mean the soundcard voices or the sound set voices available for programs such as NI Bandstand or Roland Sound Canvas? I do really like the sounds from Proteus, it's just that they are not arranged in the same order as the GM voice list. I'll probably have to spend more time with Proteus and write out a list of Proteus sounds to use to replace the GM voices.
I hadn't heard about the Sonivox software, I'll do a web search to check that out.
I used to have an early version of Fruity Loops (Win 95), but was not too impressed at that time. I'll check to see if anyone I know has a new version of FL Studio. Or better yet, I guess I'll just download the free version and see how it works. I do pay for programs that I use. However, I have been disappointed with some software I have used in the past. I like the idea of being able to try out a program first and if you like it, then you can buy the license to save your work. Take care.
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Perhaps this why you might be having timing issues.Try using one or the other only.Selections are made in the project options dialog box.
The help files will explain it better than me.
I do know that there are master clocks that are sold(I do believe they are expensive)to remedy this.
LOL.
NI Bandstand as I said is more as a standalone Midi player with NI sound fonts that replace GM. Bandstand takes a GM file of multiple tracks, and applies a common sound based on assigned midi CH's in that midi file.
You don't really want GM sound sets. Use the Proteus stuff!! GM is horrid!
Sonivox has a series of replacement GM type files. IIRC there are about 6 banks of 127 files with that set. Been a while, so they may not even have them any more.
Have you tried FL Studio? Base version is free, but you can't save projects unless you register it (pay for it).
I haven't tried VST plugins in PTP yet. Cubase LE 4 supports VST plugins without having to use a wrapper, and since I am recording the band with my Zoom HD16CD multi-track recorder, I have been using Cubase. The Zoom works great with Cubase and also doubles as a control surface while working within Cubase - Cool!
The timing problems I have are with playing GM midi voices through the computer soundcard and VSTs at the same time. So it does not have anything to do with sending the data out the USB cable and back. It's all within the computer. But others have told me that mixing the two methods does not work for them either.
When you say \"GM sound sets\" do you mean the soundcard voices or the sound set voices available for programs such as NI Bandstand or Roland Sound Canvas? I do really like the sounds from Proteus, it's just that they are not arranged in the same order as the GM voice list. I'll probably have to spend more time with Proteus and write out a list of Proteus sounds to use to replace the GM voices.
I hadn't heard about the Sonivox software, I'll do a web search to check that out.
I used to have an early version of Fruity Loops (Win 95), but was not too impressed at that time. I'll check to see if anyone I know has a new version of FL Studio. Or better yet, I guess I'll just download the free version and see how it works. I do pay for programs that I use. However, I have been disappointed with some software I have used in the past. I like the idea of being able to try out a program first and if you like it, then you can buy the license to save your work. Take care.