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  • edited November 2008
    \iliace\ wrote:
    Shredd, man... all these excuses.... \"women in SF don't want men\".... honestly? come on... you know that's BS. Just say that you're afraid of women and that you'd rather deal with foreigners than americans, women-wise. At least that's being honest. At least to yourself.
    Not so. I'd be happy to have an American woman, if she was a decent human with values and character. But that ain't so easy to find. Life in the USA instills a sense of entitlement that's unappealing. That's why I like foreign wimmins. Just 'cuz I don't have your beeotch-slappin' attitude towards women doesn't mean I'm afraid of them.
  • \Rawb\ wrote:
    Or you end up with the one whose only english word recognizable is \"HALF\"
    LoL or at the very least \" See ya! I'm a citizen now, Hope you and the kids have a nice life \"
    Seen that one many times!
    THAT'S the kind of women that makes me selective/picky/whatever you guyz wanna call it. I'd rather sit in a room with my guitar than have some heartless wench take all my money and end up sitting in an empty room wishing I HAD a guitar. :shock:
  • Maybe you could get involved in some church activites. There always seems to be some saintly women looking to \"save\" a man, sinners we are. Point is, you gotta go where the women are, which I don't believe is in your bedroom at the moment.

    Speaking of your bedroom, I saw some pics of your gear in your bedroom on another thread. Impressed me, but I doubt many women would feel the same. A woman needs to feel that she has control over the house, and the bedroom is probably the last place you would want to make your stand. Don't know your living situation, but I'd move all that gear to the living room at least - just in case you do get lucky. I am lucky in that I have a big house. My wife controls all the rooms except my music room. That's where me and the boys practice. But she knows that the rest of the house is all hers. For me, it's a fair trade.

    Also, since you like music so much, why not try to get involved in some church/community choirs? There always seems to be chics in choir. You just got to get out there and meet people. Best wishes.
  • That's why I like foreign wimmins. Just 'cuz I don't have your beeotch-slappin' attitude towards women doesn't mean I'm afraid of them.

    Shredd, there are plent of AMERICAN women who meet your criteria. I know, I'm married to one and I know many others. If you make it out this way come to one of our shows and you will see many available single babes that will meet your standards....question is, will you meet theirs? It is a two way street. One of our JS bros \"furious lopez\" is coming to my Friday night show in Simi and claims he is bringing several babes with him (where have I heard that before), but who knows, I have certainly seen it happen before. I think you just have to come down to the city man. Maybe not this city but someplace where the woman to man ratio is actually somewhere above laughable.

    JV
  • \jimiV\ wrote:
    Shredd, there are plent of AMERICAN women who meet your criteria.

    In fact, there are plenty of Eastern European women in America. I've dated several right here, without spending so much as $10, never mind $10,000.
  • OK, I give.
    For eons I've been wailing to you guys about how I don't have women around to go after or choose from, and it severely hampers my chances.
    Lots of you guys surely think this has something to do with me...Ilia thinks I'm afraid of women, Rawb and JV and who knows who else think I'm insane for living where there aren't any women (who are interested in men, anyway...), surely half the rest think I'm some sort of ogre that even the most desperate of women wouldn't look twice at.
    SO. I'm going to offer some sort of explanation for this, in the hopes that those of you who're utterly riveted by my fascinating life will get a better picture.

    My line of work is Estate Management, which translates into Care And Feeding Of The Wealthy. What it really means is that I manage the estate of enormously wealthy people. These people don't own homes in places that teem with hott single women. They live in the kinds of places the rest of us can't afford to.
    For one, they're already married. For another, they have the time and money to go wherever they want.
    And since they're so wealthy and tripping around the world from home to home and great place to great place, they need someone like me to manage their \"spread\". Keep things righted, do the administration, keep everything being done as needed.
    The point being that in a job like mine, I don't get to choose where I work, so I can't set up shop in the UCLA Hott Chix Birth Control Center. I live where they live. And living on a palatial estate in the prettiest part of the Rockies and making 100K a year to do it is a pretty decent package.
    The problem, of course, is the trade-offs. Not too many single ladies are hanging around places like this, unless they're looking to marry the freshly-divorced gazillionaires.
    Now, we all know that everything in life is a trade-off. In my case, I'm sacrificing for my career 'cuz I have no family, no inheritance, no rich uncle to set me up for life. I'm just like all you slobs, trying to make a living and set myself up a retirement that won't include dog food and refrigerator boxes.

    This is why I live in places that aren't teeming with available women. And having a job like this entails a lot of attention and responsibility, so I don't have to pick up my boss at the plane and explain why his $40 million house burned down. This leaves less spare time than most jobs, meaning less time to take classes, hang in coffee shops and libraries, do activities, all that stuff where you lucky bastrds met your hott wifes. Who, by all measures, seem to love and value you, considering they'll let you spend the grocery money on new strings and that killer strobe tuner.

    Do ya get it now?

    And - no offense, Ilia - but I reallllly don't think your dating style is something I could do.
  • Maybe we should just re-name this forum...
    \"Shredd's Lonely Hearts\" forum..

    Sheesh!!!
  • Wow, laying it out on the line there Shredd. I once heard that the only thing we cannot buy is more time in our life. Although we like to think our employers are paying for our labor, in reality, they buy our time, which is our most valuable asset. How you chose to sell your time is your decision.

    There are many jobs I could be doing on a Friday or Saturday night that pay more than gigging with the boys in a local bar. However, I know that if I don't go out and play music while I can, that train may leave the station without me and I will never get those opportunites again. And my job/career has never been as important to me as my relationship with my wife. I know that as one job ends, nobody at the old office really cares about what happens to me or my family. They have their own to worry about. So you really have to decide what's important for you in your life and if your job is preventing you from having the life you want, then it's time for a different job. You cannot buy back time.
  • I mean, $10 is hyperbolizing, but my point is, why go to Russia to meet women? You want Russian women, come to DC area for a week and go out to one of our numerous all-russian clubs and other favorite hang out spots. Plenty right here on this continent.

    Similar in most east coast metropolitain areas, I'd imagine. And, I would think, in Cali, if that's closer to you.
  • \gtaus\ wrote:
    Wow, laying it out on the line there Shredd. I once heard that the only thing we cannot buy is more time in our life. Although we like to think our employers are paying for our labor, in reality, they buy our time, which is our most valuable asset. How you chose to sell your time is your decision.

    There are many jobs I could be doing on a Friday or Saturday night that pay more than gigging with the boys in a local bar. However, I know that if I don't go out and play music while I can, that train may leave the station without me and I will never get those opportunites again. And my job/career has never been as important to me as my relationship with my wife. I know that as one job ends, nobody at the old office really cares about what happens to me or my family. They have their own to worry about. So you really have to decide what's important for you in your life and if your job is preventing you from having the life you want, then it's time for a different job. You cannot buy back time.
    Words to live by, to be sure. Wise fella.
    I do this job because it's a good \"use\" of my time - it's creating a future for me that I couldn't otherwise, while at the same time I get to live a quality of life I'd otherwise never enjoy. If I spent my time pursuing women - around the world OR closer to home - instead of creating a living for myself, I'd end up eating dog food. And considering that people are scraping out their couch cushions to buy socks for the kids these days, I feel fortunate to be in the position I am.
    That said - if I DID have a relationship of that value, no job or gig or anything would rank above that. I do have a sense of priorities.

    PS - BITE ME 'tal. When you can change the importance of a mate to me, you can scoff all you want. :?
    Like a guy on another forum I saw signs: \"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away, and you have their shoes.\" :lol:
  • Perhaps this outlook would be of help..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gO-Vi1cbfQ

    Gee as wierd as the Mothers are, they didn't seem to have any problems, with the opposite sex...

    Think about that one..
  • :shock: :shock:
    Maybe if I was like that, chix would find me \"oddly fascinating\".

    Forgive me if I'm tense about it. When you guys hate your wives, you go have a beer with your pals and beeotch about it.
    For me, YOU guys are those guys. Why dya think I hang out here so much? :oops:
  • \shredd\ wrote:
    :shock: :shock:
    Maybe if I was like that, chix would find me \"oddly fascinating\".

    Forgive me if I'm tense about it. When you guys hate your wives, you go have a beer with your pals and beeotch about it.
    For me, YOU guys are those guys. Why dya think I hang out here so much? :oops:

    You don't have a wife to hate. (Does anyone actually hate his wife?) So be happy, because you might against all odds find that special girl who will turn into your hateable life, and you'll be thinking back to the days when you were blissfully single.

    I'm in the single-never-married category, so my perspective is rather limited.

    But honestly, I've noticed one pattern - take care of your life, everything that's part of it; and learn to enjoy it. Women find that attractive, on an instinctual level.
  • The Mothers Ruled...

    Saw thim at a club in Houston, about that time...
    \"Suzie....Suzie Creamcheese...\"...

    \"Hi, I'm Jimmy Carl Black. The Indian of the group\"... :lol:

    Two more times I saw Zappa...
    The Grand Wazoo tour was the end...

    P.S...
    All 3 of these events, had major hot chicks, just looking to hook up...
  • Tal, do you hate your wife?
  • It's a figure of speech. Few men hate their wives. But most married people I know have times where they don't dig each other quite so much. Right guys?!?
  • \shredd\ wrote:
    It's a figure of speech. Few men hate their wives. But most married people I know have times where they don't dig each other quite so much. Right guys?!?

    Never! My wife is a saint. I don't know what I would do without her.






    P.S. I wish to retain my rights to extend and/or revise this message when my wife leaves the room and stops reading my computer screen.
  • \iliace\ wrote:
    Tal, do you hate your wife?

    My favorite show is \"Married With Children.\".. :lol:

    I've been married almost 30 years and I can honestly bet you, that anybody that's been married for any length of time,, has had moments when a thought like this dances through your mind...

    \"I'll be right back dear. Just going to the store for a pack of Smokes\"..

    never to be seen again.. :lol:

    Next thing you know some mysterious guy shows up at a lumber camp in the mountains, Introduces himself as \"Shredd\"...Ooops.. I meant \"Joe Smith\" and declares...

    I'm a lumber jack son of a gun..
  • Next thing you know some mysterious guy shows up at a lumber camp in the mountains, Introduces himself as \"Shredd\"...Ooops.. I meant \"Joe Smith\" and declares...
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    \gtaus\ wrote:
    P.S. I wish to retain my rights to extend and/or revise this message when my wife leaves the room and stops reading my computer screen.
    icon_roflmao.gif

    See whut I mean???
  • \shredd\ wrote:
    OK, I give.
    Rawb and who knows who else think I'm insane for living where there aren't any women (who are interested in men, anyway...), SO. I'm going to offer some sort of explanation for this,
    Do ya get it now?

    .

    That's it! wtf, Thanks ... for nothing!!!!........Took all the mystique out of it .... I had an incling that's what you did! But I didn't want to know! That's why I didn't ASK!

    All your time? Not worth it! imo, If it is to you... then why bitch about anything? once again my opinion.... But.. I do think the circles you move in keep you in a class where woman look at you as one step above pool boy! So if your trying to hook up with women that are use to a 100K for their annual wardrobe budget... MMmm I wonder why they don't call back.

    Insane!? LoL I do so perfer being in nowheresville than the Big city which includes surrounding burbs and such.... No I do not think that of you. There's chicks everywhere! Once again I have to refer to ... What are you looking for? Is your standard unreasonably high?

    The funny thing is way back in the bar days. I actually had some regulars one of which actually did what you are joking about. He was a billy from wv. He told the ole lady he was going to the store and never went home! LoL Really!! Came here, a different state and got married.. LoL never divorced the old one ... Lmao now that I think about it! LoL
  • \Rawb\ wrote:
    All your time? Not worth it! imo, If it is to you... then why ***chicken pot pie*** about anything? once again my opinion.... But.. I do think the circles you move in keep you in a class where woman look at you as one step above pool boy! So if your trying to hook up with women that are use to a 100K for their annual wardrobe budget... MMmm I wonder why they don't call back.
    Insane!? LoL I do so perfer being in nowheresville than the Big city which includes surrounding burbs and such.... No I do not think that of you. There's chicks everywhere! Once again I have to refer to ... What are you looking for? Is your standard unreasonably high?
    Well, I know that ain't the problem...I don't pursue women in the bracket of the people I work for...that'd be like...well, like me wanting to have Anne Hathaway be my pool bunny. Probably ain't gonna happen.
    No, my \"standards\", such as they are, are not near as lofty as my starlet-pining posts might imply. I simply want a woman who's warm-hearted, pretty, smart, funny, and likes me the way I am.
    Sounds like it's asking a lot, doesn't it? But I'd rather be alone with my git'r than married to a mean, whiny, Rosie O'Donnell lookalike. :shock:
  • \shredd\ wrote:
    I simply want a woman who's warm-hearted, pretty, smart, funny, and likes me the way I am. Sounds like it's asking a lot, doesn't it?

    Nothing wrong with that...mate! Sounds like every average guy out there

    But hey, don't be to hard on yourself.. Higgins never had no chicks either! The dude living in the guest house got 'em all!! :P
  • \Rawb\ wrote:
    But hey, don't be to hard on yourself.. Higgins never had no chicks either! The dude living in the guest house got 'em all!! :P
    Higgins? Who dat? Is it even possible that there's someone getting less attention from women than me?!? :shock:
  • \shredd\ wrote:
    \Rawb\ wrote:
    But hey, don't be to hard on yourself.. Higgins never had no chicks either! The dude living in the guest house got 'em all!! :P
    Higgins? Who dat? Is it even possible that there's someone getting less attention from women than me?!? :shock:

    :shock: Higgins is/was a PM that looked after the Robin Masters estate in Hawaii! :P
  • \Rawb\ wrote:
    \shredd\ wrote:
    \Rawb\ wrote:
    But hey, don't be to hard on yourself.. Higgins never had no chicks either! The dude living in the guest house got 'em all!! :P
    Higgins? Who dat? Is it even possible that there's someone getting less attention from women than me?!? :shock:

    :shock: Higgins is/was a PM that looked after the Robin Masters estate in Hawaii! :P

    I caught the reference to the Magnum P.I. series on TV. I guess that series is already about 30 years old.
  • \gtaus\ wrote:
    \Rawb\ wrote:
    :shock: Higgins is/was a PM that looked after the Robin Masters estate in Hawaii! :P
    I caught the reference to the Magnum P.I. series on TV. I guess that series is already about 30 years old.
    No wonder I don't know any of these names. I only remember the TV I watched last night... :oops:
  • Try one of those meet for lunch deals if it's in your area?

    Too selective? Our bassist is 48 and still can't find one that fits his image of the perfect gal! He's dated quite a few 19-23 yr old's. He don't want a just add water and intsta family either. He travels abroad for his job, has a few pinned down in some locations but none of it makes him thrilled about who he's with and so on.

    If he goes to a family event or something he's always hammered about his lifestyle, no wimminz, yada yada.

    Recently he hooked up on E harmony and found some gal in Denver. He met her and all was legit, he's now in a dilemma of dumping his youngin's. He says she's not barbie, but nice to look at and more on his level. He's an Elect Engineer and she designs Conveyors (he does conveyor, automations, etc).

    For wimminz and men. sometimes it begs to question why is this person (insert age) and never been married, engaged, etc? For some they take that as a red flag.

    But it's just people so- Ya never know!
  • you know shredd, all the advice and jesting aside. Rawb <---- looks around for the ole lady! You really have it good mate! Now there's something to be said for having a spouse and all good stuff I might add. But speaking for myself I was in my 30's when I finally settled down. Maybe cuz it was kinda late, but I sometimes miss being by myself. my schedule myu way at my pace. And in time in a relationship it gets that way again to a certain extent. But it ain't the same.. ya know!


    guys generally look at Chicks in one of two ways or sometimes both, As an object to be hunted and toyed with or as a potentail soul mate. Which ever you are stop. And then some day, when least expecting it. BLAM there she'll be! You'll be looking at her. Not for her!

    Ok sorry for the Dr. Phil moment. Back to your normally scheduled programing!
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