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PA or monitor connections (hookup from GNX4 or mixer?)

<div style="displaynone">fiogf49gjkf0d</div>I know there is quite a bit of info on this subject (i.e. what are the best hookups), but it's spread out all over the place and it would be good if some of you might just tell me how they have your rigs hooked up for recording/playback/monitoring, etc..

I've been playing with various ways of connecting the GNX4 up with my Behringer mixer. The question I have is basically Do you have your PA or monitor speakers connected to the GNX4 or hooked up to the mixer?

I have found varying sound qualities with different hookup combinations and varying line-level issues too depening on where I have different inputs going (particularly with a non-powered mic going direct into GNX4 and I've messed with the level per the manual). It's time-consuming trying to figure it all out. I've had some difficulty getting the balancing act right between guitar and the mic (guitar too loud with some hookups such that I can hardly hear my vocals. that might be a good thing -).

I'm starting to think I want to try to route my mic and acoustic guitar through the mixer to the GNX4 and hookup the studio monitors to the GNX4 (for recording that seems to have worked pretty good). I have an acoustic pedal after the guitar going into the mixer for effects. I'll then route the output back to the mixer for headphone use (so I can have 2 people listening on headphones). I will have my electric going direct into the GNX4 for effects.

Could some of you comment on your mixer, guitar, mic connections (just the outs and ins and where they are would be good)? Or, if you know specifically if there is an entry on the forum, which one might have all I need to know. I hit on tons of stuff. I'm trying to find something consolidated that discusses mixer/GNX4/guitar rigging. Note that I have been through the manuals and power user's guide and the tutorials. I'd like some experienced opinions.

Thank you and have a great weekend.

Comments

  • Routing options are plenty. What suits one users equipment may not others as our ears and styles decide for us.

    Common:

    For PA:

    GNX direct to PA. Mic's connected to PA Mixer> Power amp> Passive Speakers

    or

    GNX to mixer> Mixer to Powered Speakers

    or

    GNX to POWERED Speakers. (Simplest Hookup)

    RECORDING:

    Depends on your system, hardware and sound card/external interface spec.

    Simple: GNX> USB into PC, Near Field monitors connect to XLR's of GNX

    With External Interface:

    GNX XLR's to Aud Interface> Mic to Interface> Aud Interface outs to Near Field monitors.

    Audio Interface, GNX as interface are all dependent upon system spec's for recording. YMMV depending on pc hardware, ram type, OS, etc.
  • So many options like guitar3456 said. My hookup depends on what I am using the GNX4 for.

    For the full band, the GNX4 gets jacked into the mixer just like any other guitar/bass/vocal channel. The mixer sends the signals to the amp which powers the speakers.

    For myself at home, I usually jack everything I can (guitar, mic, midi keyboard, computer via USB) into the GNX4 and listen through the headphones, or send the XLR line outputs to my home studio mixer/PA. If I had powered monitors (maybe someday), I would just bypass the studio mixer/PA altogether. That would really make a great one man band package all centered around the GNX4.

    But as it is, I spend most of my time with a full band and the GNX4 gets one channel on the mixing board. Everything for the band is mixed to mono and sent to the speakers as a mono mix for our live gigs. Anyway, that's primarily how my GNX4 gets used. Take care.
  • My band room is set up like this. Everything runs into the mixer. Mixer goes out to two PA speakers and a 4-channel headphone preamp. Mixer subgroups and aux channels go to an 8-channel recorder.

    What is hooked up to the mixer.

    Channels 1,2 - electronic drum kit
    Channel 3 - bass amp direct out
    Channel 4, 5, 6 - nothing
    Channels 7,8 - GNX XLR outputs
    Channels 9,10 - nothing
    Channels 11,12,13,14,15 - microphones for vocals
    Channel 16 - nothing
    Channels 17,18 - POD Pro XLR outputs

    Drum kit is a Roland (not mine)
    Bass amp is a Line 6 (not mine)
    Microphones are: 3 Behringer XM8500, one SM57, and some kind of headset-style mic for drummer (not mine)

    Headphone preamp is a Presonus.
    Mixer is a Behringer (32 channel, 24 XLR + 8 line)
    Speakers are JBL Eons, active.
    Recorder is a Korg (8-channel recording and 16-channel playback).

    Headphones are AKGs.

    Everything is powered through a Monster 12-outlet power conditioner. Everything is left on and turned off altogether on the Monster.

    Hope that helps.
  • When you connect the XLR outputs to the behringer mixer do you use the XLR mic inputs? Don't those have a pre-amp?
  • Use the Line XLR's for 2 reasons:

    Low impedance for longer cable runs

    Less Noise potential with XLR

    Most mixer channel strips will have XLR and 1/4\" inputs/ch.
  • I am looking at getting a Behringer 1204 which has XLR inputs for mics. You can turn the phanton power off. But it says that \" the preamp for mic\" are high quality. Is it going to be ok to plug and GSP 1101 into those inputs.
  • I want to dump the heavy pre amps and go to powered speakers.I am debating between the Macki SRM 450 or the QSC K12's. Any advice or expirences with these?



    Lyssa

    magic sing karaoke player
  • QSC's are top shelf ! might be overkill for just the GNX4. If you use for your PA, then they are great.

    Mackies are good too, but you can find similar options for a more economical price.

    QSC is in a league of its own for pro sumer gear.
  • \gtaus\ wrote:
    ...
    For myself at home, I usually jack everything I can (guitar, mic, midi keyboard, computer via USB) into the GNX4 and listen through the headphones, or send the XLR line outputs to my home studio mixer/PA. If I had powered monitors (maybe someday), I would just bypass the studio mixer/PA altogether. That would really make a great one man band package all centered around the GNX4.
    ....



    I am also doing that at home when I compose. I do the recording first then hear it to the headphone. When I am alone I am going to connect all the instruments using the jack.
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