Who can RECONE a Celestion? (and do it right?!?)

shredd

So...while I sorted out the impedance problem building my new bass cab, I managed to put a probe RIGHT THRU the paper cone of one of my nice brand-spankin' new Celestion B10-70's.
:evil: :evil: :oops: :oops: AAAAAARGH!!!! :oops: :oops: :evil: :evil:
So...if any of youse guys, especially you sound reinforcement wizards, know somewhere I can get this baby re-coned in proper, to-Celestion-specs fashion, please get ahold of me asap - post here, PM me, or send a carrier pigeon. :roll:

philflood

I had a pair of fairly high-end Jamo PA speakers reconed by this outfit. They did a very good job:

San Antonio Speaker Reconing
7366 Reindeer Trl
San Antonio, TX
ph. 210-509-8146

And I googled Celestion reconing and found these guys:

http://www.simplyspeakers.com/speaker-repair-celestion.htm

shredd

Thanks 'flood...I'll check 'em out. I want someone to do a decent job with this thing.
Meanwhile, once I posted (and stopped flogging myself for such a 14-carat f**k-up) I googled too, and found a few, and emailed for quotes. Dam thing is, I'll probably pay us much to recone the thing as I did for the whole set. :evil:

thehootman

You dont need a recone for a little tiny hole. It should be fine.

philflood

The Simply Speakers ouifit indicates that they can do patches, too. That might be a better and cheaper way to go.

shredd

I am CLEARLY the dumbest S/O/B in existance. After much research, it appears it'll cost nearly $100 to recone this speaker (incl shipping and so on); and I can't even find another one to buy, which would probably cost around $100 as well.
I'm trying to get the guy who got me the deal on my first set to either hook me up with a single speaker, or get me a great deal on another set of four, but any which way it's going to cost me a bundle, and possibly leave me with (very expensive!) unused speakers. :evil:
Sadly, I don't think that a \"patch\" of any kind is the answer, even if it is possible - this isn't a nice 1/8\" punch from a test probe, it's a tear 1/2\" wide and nearly an inch long. Even if it CAN be fixed, it's not going to sound anything like the other three in the cab.
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

guitar3456

As long as the tear has paper intact and not removed, you can fix it.

get a piece of cheesecloth and cut it about 1/4\" larger than the area torn.
get some 5 min epoxy and mix thin (dilute with slightly more resin).

with a small but semi stiff brush, apply the epoxy to the BACK side of the speaker in the torn area. then stick the cheesecloth patch over the area and carefully brush over the entire area feathering out away. after about 30 min, apply the same mix epoxy over the front only around of the tear, feathering out to less than 1/4\" from the tear (makes it less noticeable).

if done right, the fix is cheap and will not alter the sound if at all. cheesecloth is very thin and the epoxy coating should not add as much as tears treated with clear fingernail polish (which works too).

insideout

Based on your recent actions, I would add to Mikes already fantastic method... make sure you remove the probe before attempting to fix the cone :shock: :P :P

Manitou

:?
This explains a lot.
Whenever a Celestion is attacked by alien probes...
I sense a rip in the Force.

shredd

Thanks Mike - it's a nice clean rip, so I'm going to try your method first before I go for new speakers or reconing. Thanks!!! You're on the list for top wiz kid around here, with Iliace... 8)
I'll post some before & after pics, for everyone's amusement...and to finish flogging myself for this colossal f/u. Just don't tell any of the cute girls...it's not like I NEED any help lookin' stupid... :oops:

shredd

\insideout\ wrote:

Based on your recent actions, I would add to Mikes already fantastic method... make sure you remove the probe before attempting to fix the cone :shock: :P :P

Does this mean I also have to remove my head from my bu++ to attempt the procedure??? :oops: :roll: :oops:

insideout

\shredd\ wrote:

Does this mean I also have to remove my head from my bu++ to attempt the procedure??? :oops: :roll: :oops:

I was mearly saying that Mike should have clearly stated that as step 1 in his procedure, and to remove said head as step 2 . Don't worry my friend, we won't tell any of the hotties about this 8)

shredd

Well guys, here's the before n afters of my first-ever attempt at repairing a speaker. Whattya think? You want me to come over and remodel your kitchen now?
Before: http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/shredd_photos/Celestion/100_1057.jpg
After: http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/shredd_photos/Celestion/100_1069.jpg

insideout

Nice work shreddy!! My kitchen doesn't need remodeling, but can you help me replace my patio door 8)

shredd

\insideout\ wrote:

Nice work shreddy!! My kitchen doesn't need remodeling, but can you help me replace my patio door 8)

I'm a pretty handy guy, but this is quite a triumph for me, considering how stupid I felt having caused the damage to the speaker, and how expensive they are. I oughtta be able to put up your patio door in a snap. and your wife will be SO grateful she'll fix me up with her hott single friend.

insideout

I figured you may want to see a pic of my wifes snot single friend




Wait, you did say snot... didn't you :shock: :P

shredd

I said \"hott\", you evil creature. I almost choked up my lunch!!

shredd

Well, I put it in the cab and fired the rig up, to see if my efforts were fruitful.
Not that I had g3456's ears here to listen for those micro-noises that hacks like me wouldn't even hear, but to tell the truth, it sounded pretty good. Did a lot of isolated listening to that one speaker as I ran some scales and riffs, then just turned everything way up to see what it'd take.
It did start to rattle just a bit at very high volume...but then again, so was everything else in the room. Plus I think a lot of the breakup in the tones were from the amp, not the cab. It's only a 150Wx2! And at \"normal\" volumes, both amp and cab were clear as a bell.
This was also a straight-through setup - bass to preamp to amp to cab. Left my GNX, my BP200, EQ's, BBE, EVERYthing out of the loop. And even when I put the BBE back in to tighten and punch up the signal a bit, it still sounded good. So once I get the chance, I'm going to run full rig again - GNX and/or BP200 - to see how the various sounds are. But it looks like G saved my bacon...or at least the bux it woulda cost to replace/recone the thing. 8)

guitar3456

Nice work! looks really good. Remem, for speakers being new, you have to break them in (not break them).. for a good 3-4 days. Change vol's etc and run it. After a week you'll notice them settle in (not as shrill as they are new).

shredd

\guitar3456\ wrote:

Nice work! looks really good. Remem, for speakers being new, you have to break them in (not break them).. for a good 3-4 days. Change vol's etc and run it. After a week you'll notice them settle in (not as shrill as they are new).

Thanks - I did NOT know that! Like breaking in a new car's engine, right? I'll give 'em a workout to start with...thanks!!!

Manitou

\insideout\ wrote:

I figured you may want to see a pic of my wifes snot single friend




Wait, you did say snot... didn't you :shock: :P

I'll see your \"snot\" and I'll raise you a \"morning after.\" :shock:

shredd

OH. MY. GAWD. Dude. Thanks for the visual. Now I don't need to think about baseball statistics anymore. :shock:
I might just have to reconsider livestock love. :shock:

Manitou

ewe old goat roper.