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archon's take on G3456 resignation

well i could try and reply to this but it will only get edited so all the times i try to clarify wht i meant are deleted and all the ranting is the only bits left so thanks for that Iliace!

I repeat for the INFINITE TIME!

i never said mike should stop being a moderator but he should stop selling patches.

you certainly cant do both becuase there is a conflict of interests

it would appear that mike chose to continue making money and stop being a moderator - i didnt make him do that.

i have never questioned his knowledge or ability as a moderator - i just thought selling user patches was unethical and a big messy grey area (wich it has proved to be)

that is really it - please iliace dont edit this one - i think its fair and it states the point politely and you keep deleting all the posts were i try to make this point but i really wanna make it dood.
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  • This is very true. Conflict of interest always makes it difficult to perform a job, regardless of how well-compensated or important.

    Mike was a good moderator, but he is also a businessman, and thus has a business to run. The mentioned conflict of interest has no doubt caused issues for him, and so he bowed out of his role. I respect his decision.
  • My respects for Mike's positive inputs.


    I repeat for the THIRD TIME!

    I have no problem if someone sells patches.

    I have a problem with

    -- Conflict of Interest

    -- Misuse of official position

    -- the cover of diplomatic immunity to hide the truth !
  • Archon;

    Sheesh...He's done, it's over. Is this NOT what you wanted? You guys wanna keep going? I think it's getting pretty clear what (who) is around to help and who is actually \"hurting the community\".

    The clear majority here had no problem with the way things were and you forced your opinion on the rest of us. On behalf of the people who visit this site for it's intended purpose, please stop your preaching!

    You should really concentrate on helping to put back into the community what you've forced it to lose, instead going on for 100th time about what you think.

    And you wonder why so many keep their gnx's but hang out elsewhere...



    Just My thoughts,
    Dobb.
  • edited July 2006
    Actually I [content edited by moderator] voice their views without [content edited by moderator]. The opinions are [content edited by moderator], so I think the [content edited by moderator] in this case.
  • Archon, for someone who posted thast they didn't want to discuss this any more you appear to be doing just the opposite, is it a cry for help or attention somehow? LOL.

    shando
  • Yeah, I didnt have a problem with the guy tryin to make a buck either...in fact I'm gonna help him...(new Sig)
  • me neither Cobalt, in fact I think he did a great job with the disc and I seen no problem with promoting it here. But then again, it appears that one person seems to have a bit of more control than the rest of us over what happens here regardless of what the rest of us think! I don't particularly care much for speed metal, maybe I should voice my distaste of it and see if I can have any of this genre removed from the forum!
  • I had NO problem with Mikes presence as a moderator, he never even came close to crossing the 'conflict of interest' line.

    I DO have a problem with people telling me how to spend my money and bullying people out of the forum.

    Is this a better forum now? I don't think so.
  • edited July 2006
    I second that jat. :cry:
  • why \"too bad\" iliace?
  • Damn!!!
    We all got way toooooo serious here.. :lol::lol::lol:

    IMHO...
    I think this board lost 2 of the most knowedgeable mods on a prodct line that I've seen on any board anywhere, with the loss of AA, and now G3456. :cry:

    The amazing thing about both these cats is they weren't even Digitech employees, and to posess the knowldedge that these guys have and willing shared with this community, was a great resource. And now a great loss. :cry:

    So what, if G3456 made patches and sold them??
    He just enhanced the product, for a small fee, for a product that most everyone here had already shelled out $500 for. :?

    As far as conflict of interest, I never once saw a thread that G3456 promoted his patches or criticizing anybody for not using them..

    I've also been around the board a while and never seen any misuse of power, or usage of status to suppress other members opinions..

    If I am wrong on any of the above statements, pleas post some links for others to see these wrong doings as well.. :)

    That being said, I respect both of these gentlemens decisions, and I sincerly hope that whoever the new Mod(S?) are will posess the kind of knowedge and willingness to help that these two guys had... 8)

    Sincerly,
    Tal... 8)
  • Archon, maybe you should just put your view in your sig. Then you wouldn't have to keep typing it. 8)
  • \shando\ wrote:
    why \"too bad\" iliace?
    I'm just joking... sorry. Stepped out of character there for a second.
  • maybe time to \"censor\" your own post as it's all becoming somewhat sinister now!
  • ty
    I sincerly hope that whoever the new Mod(S?) are will posess the kind of knowedge and willingness to help that these two guys had... 8)

    Sincerly,
    Tal... 8)

    Yes Tal, it will surely be one tough act to follow!

    TY

    shando
  • YAWN!

    eat me 8)

    i aint going nowhere less someone makes me.

    i just voiced an opinion back in the day and have had defend myself against this stuff ever since - wich is why it has escalated.

    I didnt bully mike out of the forum he didnt like people actually having a hard look at the implications of what he was doing.

    besides i DID stop talking about it and ednrg started his \"have the supermodels actually hurt the community\" thread and all you bozos started it all up again.

    he left out of his own choice and he did it for effect - and its working

    If you dont understand why i think charging for patches was a bad idea then fair enough im not going to try and convince you.

    but im still not going anywhere and i didnt like most of you before this so nothing has really changed for me 8)

    If Iliace would leave posts in the threads they were written in and stop deleting things everything would make more sense and people wouldnt have to keep writing the same old stuff over and over

    I didnt start this thread it was actually a reply to a completely different thread that Iliace saw fit to 'reorganise'.

    go on then idiots demonstrate to the wonderful mike how much you are more on his side than mine (not that it even matters in any way whatsoever) by giving him your $60 - im sure that will make him feel all warm and cuddly and wanted and make you feel all vitriolic and stuff - you really are idiots - he's actually very bright.

    in the words of the human torch \"Flame on\"
  • \"idiots\" \"bozos\", oooh somebodys tired!

    A little bit of petulance now is it?
  • :lol::wink::lol:

    oh please stop killa you are too tough and i cannot withstand the avalanche of your rapier like insults - i think i may actually burst into tears due to the expert precision with wich you apply your perpiscaciousness.

    no seriously i really am upset and crying right now.

    honestly i really am.

    i feel all castigated and chastised and slightly ashamed.

    honest.

    :twisted:
  • Right Shando,

    I think they went too deep with your last eyebrow peircing Archon! Yup, yer reel smart and we are all stoopid.

    Death and Darkness and all that other crap too right? Halloween is over, grow up!

    Dobb.
  • It's no less than you deserve Archon. No one else has thrown around insults like you have.
  • \Dobb\ wrote:
    Right Shando,

    I think they went too deep with your last eyebrow peircing Archon! Yup, yer reel smart and we are all stoopid.

    Death and Darkness and all that other crap too right? Halloween is over, grow up!

    Dobb.

    :lol:
  • \ACWild\ wrote:
    \Dobb\ wrote:
    Right Shando,

    I think they went too deep with your last eyebrow peircing Archon! Yup, yer reel smart and we are all stoopid.

    Death and Darkness and all that other crap too right? Halloween is over, grow up!

    Dobb.

    :lol:

    Sorry dudes, I don't really get the drift of this one, does it mean right shando as in I agree or right shando stfu?
  • Sweet Jesus...

    I'm going to have get a dictionary to see what these last posts mean.. :lol::lol:

    Knew I should have majored in English instead of Music. :lol::lol::lol:

    See Ya,
    Tal. 8)
  • edited July 2006
    :D

    your momma

    :D

    dood im probably older than most of you people trying to tell me to grow up wich is why i find this so amusing - the thing i hate most about these forums is that they are all about winning - it is impossible for someone to just state an opinion - if they do everyone has to nock it down - and then if you are stupid (like me) you try to defend the opinion and after a lot of bollox you end up with what have here - now mike has gone off in a big huff (he hasnt you know = he's reading all this stuff and laughing his little socks off) but hes not dead - hes saying i want nothing more to do with the forum to get you all to show him solidarity - wich he doesnt need to do i never told him to leave - he just wants me kicked out so he can keep ripping off newbies :wink:

    does it matter? = no

    is it real? = no

    whos feelings have been hurt? = no one's

    is anyone dead? = no

    has anything exploded? = no

    has mike lost buisiness? = no - infact he should give me a cut for increasing his profit margins by the sound of it.

    delete my account if you want me to go otherwise i wont.

    ill just set up with an ISP that provides dynamic ip addresses and log in as someone else and continue my struggle agains the evil ampire and the stormtoopers of idiotland that serve the dark lord.....actually i wont - that would be a bit too much like actually taking this too far id probably just, i dunno hang around the RPX forum like i used to - or go fishing, nope i dont fish = okay i admit it im a forum freak. hmmm

    guess i could always learn to play my guitar - that's always an idea i suppose.
  • \shando\ wrote:
    \ACWild\ wrote:
    \Dobb\ wrote:
    Right Shando,

    I think they went too deep with your last eyebrow peircing Archon! Yup, yer reel smart and we are all stoopid.

    Death and Darkness and all that other crap too right? Halloween is over, grow up!

    Dobb.

    :lol:

    Sorry dudes, I don't really get the drift of this one, does it mean right shando as in I agree or right shando stfu?

    It means right Shando, then adds some pretty funny comments. 8)
  • 8)

    i still think you're idiots though

    :twisted:
  • Yes, I'm the big eejit, I'm sitting here killing time and all at the UK taxpayers expense!!!
  • yup - that's we're all doing isnt it? waddya want a medal?? - you gotta admit though flameing is more fun than actually doing your job - im at my desk, im typing, im earning - am i working??

    am i f***
  • This is where it get's even better, you live in the UK Archon, so in effect you, as a tax payer, are actually paying me to wind you up. That's what makes it all the better for me!
  • \archon\ wrote:
    :D


    guess i could always learn to play my guitar - that's always an idea i suppose.

    Works for me.. :)
    Great stress reliever and such a feeling of satisfaction when you get a lick down.. 8)

    And no...
    I never bought a single patch and didn't even hook my GNX to a Pc until about a week ago... (And that's after having it a year and 1/2) :shock:

    So afraid I'd get too heavy into all the effects and recording stuff that my chops would suffer.. :lol: .

    As Zappa says
    \"Shut Up and Play Your Guitar\"

    Out a here...
    Back to praticing... 8)

    See Ya,
    Tal.. 8)
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