So are amps a thing of the past?
Played a little solo spot at a show last night (600 People) , there were 6 bands, 2 rock, 2 reggae and 2 metal bands, not one of the guitar players had an amp only the bass players had amps, they all used either boss gt8's or 6's, one used a yamaha modeller.
I played through somebodys GT8 very very nice pedal btw
All the guitarists sounded awesome and not a tube insight.
Just wondered what you all thought about this.
Are you noticing an increase in amp modelers at gigs going direct?
8)
I played through somebodys GT8 very very nice pedal btw
All the guitarists sounded awesome and not a tube insight.
Just wondered what you all thought about this.
Are you noticing an increase in amp modelers at gigs going direct?
8)
Comments
No AMP???? :shock:
I've got several.
They'll have to pry them from my cold dead fingers...
Nothing like a tube amp for blues...
(Got a 120 watt, 1968 model Peavey vintage with 6-10\") (Nasty as you wanna get) (The glowing of 4 6L6 tubes is so cool)..
And the Jazz Chorus is a bitchn' jazz amp..(Sooooo Clean)..
(Got 2 of em. The 60 and the 120)
Old Marshall 50 watter with 4/12 slant cab..
(Haven't cranked it in years, but if recolletion is still there, IT WAILS)..
Besides...
If you got no amp... How you gonna play amp war...
Amp war = \"Hmmm... Just a little louder\"...
Other guy... \"Damn I had my settings just right. Now he turned his amp uo! Let me crank up my volume to compensate.\" :twisted:
1st guy
\"That SOB just cranked his amp a little louder. I'll show him..\" :twisted:
And so on and so on until everyone wishes they had an 11 on their volume control...
That amp wars reminds me of me and alex in his garage.
Alex goes down to tweak his amp
i say u havent just turned that up have u then i go turn mine up to match his but he thinks ive turned it up louder so he does the same again ...and again....and again......till his TSL122 drowns out the roland drum amp.
:twisted:
Yeah,
But you still got some sound dude controlling the stuff....
Melt those brain cells!!!
hooked up to an Old Blonde Crate closedback 4x10....as we speak.
I only use an Ibanez Screaming Demon with this.
My GNX4 hooked up to a pair of Behringer's...wishes it had the same love and devotion.
I know...I could be banned for saying that.
manitou: So, you must have your keyboard behind your amp.....
Amp is short for amplifyer.
There is an amplifyer in a PA, but the traditional \"guitar amp\" is a thing of the past. Think about it. Electric guitars were never meant to be distorted. It wsa an unwanted by product of shooty circuitry. If Jimi Hendrix and people of the \"classic\" era of amps; the era that we try so hard to imitate, saw the digital gear and PAs we have today they would chuck away their tube amps very quickly.
The only use for tubes today is educational resources (seeing how they work) and guitar amps. Every other electronic industry has realised how bad they are compared to transistors.
Mate trust me, whack yourself through 2 300 watt 15 inch powered speakers - that will eat marshalls for breakfast.
I just don't see Wes doing that...
Just that gorgeous L5 he played and that nice, clean Polytone, tube amp..
Besides if you want clean..
Roland Jazz Chorus Rules. 8) .
All transistor...No tubes.
I find the tube pre-amp concept laughable...
Why not just get the real thing instead of a tube amp pre-amp or modeler.
Nothing like the glow of the 6L6... 8)
However due to happy coincidences, design mistakes, design shortcuts, quality of parts available then, economics etc, they came up with Amps that helped guitarists to get unique tones.
And guitarists drove these Amps way beyond the levels of the original design, getting unique distortions.
The same amp would be rejected right away for use as a PA or home entertainment.
So now those unique vintage sounds are in demand.
But modern sound engineering has progressed rapidly where it is possible to deliver very flat amps at reasonable prices.
So there is a quest to separate the tone shaping functions of the older Amps from the linear amplification parts.
Thats where digital modelling, tube preamps, Amp in a box come along.
I understand that these \"Amp in a box\" are modern ANALOG preamplifiers using electronics that closely work like tubes. They emulate the tone shaping parts of older tube Amps
There are quite a few boutique shops that make these. Some of the mp3 on the net are very interesting.
But now you can have multiple tube preamps ( or digital modeller or amp-in-a-box), each emulating a different older Amp. You plug the output of these Tube preamps into linear FRFR PA systems
So you can have many real things at the same time.
God Bless!!
Partch
I know I have some catching up to do. But honestly... life seemed so much easier with my tube amp, my screaming demon, and a few pedals.
How much of this is just plain old commercialism? Companies KNOW we can become addicted and once we have the Syndrome....they have us by the short hairs. Is this new gadgetry that much better?
Here is my analogy. I'm a Bowhunter. I started hunting Whitetail deer with a recurve bow back in the mid-60's. I wear a simple pair of camo jeans and a jacket. I use a wine bottle cork to blacken my face, and put sliced apple in my pocket to mask my scent. My recurve bow and I kill a couple Buck deer every year. I spend only the license fee, and a few dollars on some corn for a bait pile. I hunt both in a tree stand, ground blind, or stalk.
I see so many guys these days have to buy hundreds of dollars on the \"latest\" techno gear to have an advantage. Compound bows...sights...fancy this and that...even scent masking clothing...hundreds of dollars...and never even see a Deer in the woods.
But don't get me wrong...I already crossed over to the Dark Side...I'm buying the gear. I'm sik beyond help with GAS. I can no longer be the guy on the porch with the acoustic.
But times got hard, I sold all the gear I'd give my thumbs to still own, and now that I'm back into playing I've got a garden variety Jackson, a self-built fatStrat copy, etc, going into my GNX and a PA rig. It's not the precious gear I once owned and ow long for, but...it sounds pretty good. I spent some dough on this stuff, but thankfully it's not for useless stuff like scented camos that won't do a dam thing about getting me that 4x4 buck!
Here is one of the bootique boxes that uses modern electronics to emulate an older Amp's tone sections, leaving the actual linear amplification to the PA/FRFR
http://indyguitarist.com/plexidrive.htm
and here is another, this time as a DIY kit
http://www.runoffgroove.com/umble.html
Both have mp3 samples, Would love to hear what you feel about those tones !!
... :? wotta they do again?
I sure would love to stop in Colorado for some Mule Deer hunting with you.
Do you still hunt? If not ....would you consider it for Grace Slick's phone number?
I slept in her bed a few times. :shock: Did I just say that outloud?
Well...not what you think...
Deer are like guitars...how can you choose?
Hi shreddie-poo ...I hear you like to hunt dear. (wink)
Now on the other hand, if I had Angelina around, I'd be \"hunting\" daily!!!
NOW. in the interest of staying on-topic: I can relate to the great sound of all the great amps there've been over time...but if I loved an amp or amps so much, I don't think I'd bother with a modeler... :?:
Vinyl is coming back for die hards.
Muscle cars (60's-70's) are at a premium, Neons are not.
Things change, things come back. Brady Bunch clothes??
Matt
NO.... NO please! Not Brady Bunch clothes. :shock:
which marshall amp do you have i'm looking at getting a new one since my fender amp the pre amp is blown
Trust me, powered speakers are the way. Marshalls may look cool, but they really arent suitable with the gnx4...
I'm not saying the real deal (I'll take a Roland Jazz Chourus and a Fender hotrod deluxe) is not the way to go when you can, but in my situation Amp modeling sure provides alot of insperation at times when a dry marshal cranked to 1( because the nieghbors are gonna just strangle you the next time you even think about attempting Metal Gods) just isnt cutting it. :twisted: :roll:
Yeah the gnx4 will be constantly plugged into my comp i want the marshall when i'm jamming without it
Yeah the gnx4 will be constantly plugged into my comp i want the marshall when i'm jamming without it