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Your advice please upgrade to GNX3000 or GNX4

should I upgrade from my RPX400 to a a workstation? which one and why?
should I go with the ZOOM G9?

what I like about my RPX is the conection options. Mic input. I dont like some of the tones on the distortions. Cleans are pretty good.

what is the best amp to use with MFX?

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  • edited December 2007
    There's a guy on alt.guitar.effects who is about to get a G9, he promised a review. I was not at all impressed with the sound samples that Koori posted here a while ago, it sounds thin and buzzy. I'm guessing it's designed to go to the front end of an amp and not so much direct to console, but could be wrong.

    As far as upgrading... GNX4 is a fatter swiss army knife than GNX3000, but GNX3000 has a few more bells and whistles as far as amp modeling goes - many more models, many of them better sounding than GNX4. I've been using 3000 as my primary modeler for months, and couldn't be happier; it has shortcomings as far as features of GNX4, but makes up for it in tone, and the main options are still there - same I/O flexibility, USB functionality (except CF card), and effects.

    Questions are:
    1. Do you want to have a workstation with built-in MP3/MIDI drum player with CF capability?
    2. Do you want an extra bank of user patches on a CF cards, with the ability to swap them at will?
    3. Do you want the middle three footswitches to be user-assignable?
    4. Do you want to have an on-board recorder/looper, with recorded audio stored on the CF card?
    5. Do you want to have the flexibility of 8 drum kit sounds, instead of just one?

    Those are the five primary advantages of GNX4 that I can think of - as you see, most revolve around the CompactFlash and onboard recorder utilities. For GNX3000, ask yourself this question:
    1. Do you want to have 46 factory amp/cab models, with DigiTech's new Component-Based Modeling algorithms?

    That should get you started. Also see this page: http://guitarlogic.org/index.php?page=9
  • i bought the RPX400 because i didnt know the GNX4 existed - i kicked myself when i found out but then grew to love my RPX - a LOT! (but not in a weird way..) and now i have the GNX3000 and im really happy with it and i think you will be too.

    It is exactly the same as the RPX400 except;

    1) it has more and better amp models (better than the GNX4 for my money)
    2) it has many more high quality effect and you can have more in the chain as there is a seperate section for IPS/Whammy/Detune/Pitch Shift
    3) you can assign more complicated expression commands/values to the pedal
    4) you get switchable stombox models!! (woohoo!)
    5) you get tap tempo (woo hoo again)
    6) you can turn the modulation effects on and off in the same patch with a foot pedal.
    7) you get warp so you can make your own amp models.
    8 ) you get 15 Bass amp and cabinet models.
    9) you get Pro Tracks Plus wich is slightly better than Pro Tracks 2.2 but also you get ASIO2 drivers instead of WDM - arguable if this is better - the RPX WDM drivers were solid as a rock and had stupidly low latency - my ASIO GNX3000 drivers are 10ms, i can get it down to 2.2ms but the audio drops out constantly. but you can record in 24 bit instead of 16 bit.

    I know nothing of the Zoom - but it is a most excellent upgrade for an RPX owner.
  • I thankyou both for your detailed answers.

    So it seems that there is some opinion that the GNX3000 has better tone than the GNX4?

    I play at my church and am sometimes without a drummer. I can invision wanting to start and stop a drum beat with my foot on those occations. However most recording would be on the PC and I dont see using the one on the processor much.
    my protracks software works great.
  • OK if you don't need the onboard drums - which are quite handy - then GNX3000 will do the trick. You can drive the internal drum machine with MIDI note messages on Channel 10 (trivial from Pro Tracks); there is only one kit, but it sounds really good - I think they're actual acoustic drum samples, but in any case much more realistic than any that come with the Cakewalk TTS synth.

    As far tone, yes GNX3000 comes with this new technology - but many people have had success with GNX4. I actually used GNX3 with a few customized amp models, and I can get a very dynamic response out of it - including the sought-after \"distorted amp channel cleans up if you roll off the volume on your guitar\". But if you were to do a survey of people who have both (e.g. myself, AlbertA, and tons of other people on this forum) you'd probably get a pretty overwhelming consensus of GNX3000 sounding better. Some will voice dissent - at least one of the GNX2 users here tried the 3000 and went right back to his 2.

    By the way, the modeling techniques GNX3000 incorporates is very similar (perhaps even the same) as all the Digitech X-Series pedals, the Jimi Hendrix and EX7 expression pedals, and the like. Granted, the standalone stompboxes allow both more parameter settings and greater routing flexibility (also some unique effects every now and again), but if you want an all-in-one floor unit, once again GNX3000 will do the trick.
  • thanks to whoever it was that changed point number 8 so that it no longer turned into a smiley :D
  • I've located some samples of Zoom G7 - here they are, see what you think:

    Various clean: http://www.44lbs.net/ilia/hw1g7.mp3
    Various od/dist: http://www.44lbs.net/ilia/nrsg7.mp3

    Sounds pretty good!
  • That sounds very impressive to my ears :o
  • Yes, I've actually tested both GNX4 and 3000 in my dealer shop, as i am more of a tone man, I've decided to bought the GNX3000 instead, it gives me a hell of a tone. As for the extra features on the GNX4, i don't really need it, what I need is a Hell of a Tone. I'm a ADA MP1 user and I really know what tone is all about and the GNX3000 can almost achive that best of the best tone.
  • \iliace\ wrote:
    I've located some samples of Zoom G7 - here they are, see what you think:

    Various clean: http://www.44lbs.net/ilia/hw1g7.mp3
    Various od/dist: http://www.44lbs.net/ilia/nrsg7.mp3

    Sounds pretty good!

    They are Good sounding, Saxcop, if you go for GNX4 / 3000, that tone can be achive too.
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