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<div style="displaynone">fiogf49gjkf0d</div>OK kids, anyone want to weigh in? I'm interested in tips n tricks about keeping a guitar in tune. Also if you have a guitar you think stays in tune really well.
I hate tremelos, so my customized FatStrat ripoff has it's Floyd Rose immobilized, and it has a locking nut. But all the string bending n stuff still puts it out of tune.
Is there a type of guitar that stays in tune best? Certain type of bridge/nut/tuners/whatever? I really want a rig that stays in tune, so I'm thinking about a new axe. I love mine, great souinds, plays incredible, but the tuning thing drives me knuts. I know it's a problem for all guitars, but if you've had any success taming this beast, I'd like to hear about it!

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  • Me SG stays in tune really well, evin with savage bending. Hardly have to tune it once set.
    Grover tuners, tunomatic bridge.
  • Shred
    My Rg stayed in tune pretty well!! But could not realy use the Tremelo at all went out pretty bad with just a little messing around. It had LO Pro floating system. My Ibanez JS1000 has an Edge Pro floating system that I love I can actually use, not that I'm a huge tremlo user anyhow but always comes back to perfect tune. I have heard people talk about how well it stays in tune that you can trash the tremlo arm as much as you want it will take what you give it. Well now I know for sure this guitar is solid and stays in tune well!!!!! Even with heavy tremlo use!!!
  • yup! +1 for grover tuners and tunomatic bridge. ive heard gotoh and sperzels tuners are good for strats.

    my floyd rose stays in tune perfectly - so long as its balanced right so it returns to the right tuning after a bend
  • i had an RG with a necklock and floyd rose that stayed in tune better than any guitar ive had with a trem.

    Ive had 2 guitars with grover tuners on them and they seem to help stay in tune tremendously. Theyre on my acoustic now and it hardly ever comes out of tune. I want to put them on my SG eventually.
  • \shredd\ wrote:
    Is there a type of guitar that stays in tune best? Certain type of bridge/nut/tuners/whatever? I really want a rig that stays in tune, so I'm thinking about a new axe. I love mine, great souinds, plays incredible, but the tuning thing drives me knuts. I know it's a problem for all guitars, but if you've had any success taming this beast, I'd like to hear about it!

    There are thousands of good options - but you're going to spend $400-$1000 to get a good, stable axe. I don't know enough about your current guitar to say what else you could do for it. The one thing I would suggest is to add a couple more tremolo springs to your tremolo system. This will increase the bridge resistance and help stabilize the guitar during bends, etc.

    I've found that any of the Schecter C-1 series are excellent choices (the BlackJack being about the best due to genuine Duncan pups). Hardtail, $500-$700 depending on features.

    I love the Jackson Dinky DXMG series for playability and totally stable tuning (hard tail too). $400ish depending on features.

    Lower end floating trem systems aren't as reliable all the time.

    Most guitars above $650/700 with higher end floating tremolos should hold their tuning very well once set up properly. I have a JS1000 ($1350ish new) and it works like a champ.
  • <div style="displaynone">fiogf49gjkf0d</div>Thanks guys, keep the info coming...I'm learning a lot.
    My axe has a FloydRose licensed trem, and since I'm not a trem user, I have it \"locked\" - that is, bolted solidly to the body inside the trem cavity.
    It also has a nice locking nut, which makes up for the cheezy tuners this thing has. So I tune with the nut unlocked, then lock it down, and do the fine-tuning via the knobbies on the FloydRose. It's nearly the same as a hard tail, with a locking nut, yet I still seem to be able to bend it out of tune. What gives???
    So I'm thinking that my new guitar will be a hard tail, and probably Grover or equivalant tuners. Problem is, I love single coil pups, so my new axe will have to have one in the mid position, maybe neck too, like my FatStrat...
    UNLESS someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong, why my apparently stable axe can still be bent outta tune???
  • Shred
    That was How I used my RG470 though without bolting down the bridge. I just did not use the tremelo. But it stayed in fairly good tune with just bends and stuff. I only ever had to adjust the fine tuners never had to unlock the locking nut to tune except: When my strings were about spent. When it got close to time to change my strings out I would notice a more unstable condition to an utherwise stable guitar. So what about strings?? Kind of strings?? Age of strings?? Just a thought, I don't know?? Maybee check into that see if that helps.
  • <div style="displaynone">fiogf49gjkf0d</div>I use standard issue D'Addario XLT110's. The ax is well set up, intonated, etc. It plays GREAT, sounds great...but if you wail on a lead with lots of bends, your tuning is shot. Even with new strings. That's why I'm frustrated and begging for help!
  • Wow Shred I don't know I can feel your frustration!!! That would totaly stink. Sorry Man.
  • A COUPLE OF THING THAT HAVE HELPED ME IS

    REALLY MAKE SURE YOUR STRINGS ARE STRECHED WHEN INSTALLING THEM ( SPEND A COUPLE OF MINUTES JUST STRECHING AND RE TUNING )
    On a non locking trem --use a drop of cooking oil onthe the strings at the nut.
    On a locking trem if your strings go out of tune often and if you did a good job of streching them then the truss rod may need to be adjusted or the thing is just a piece of junk and you need a dif guitar
  • shred
    question--when it goes out is it just one string or all of them?

    If its just one it is probably the streching issue but

    if its all of them and if the bridge dosent move then
    either the locking nut is letting the strings slip or the rod isnt returning to the orig position---When you bend a string your truss rod may flex but should return to orig position.
    hope this helps.
    .rock on
  • dont forget to have many winds around the tuner. More the merrier in the land of stable tuning.
  • <div style="displaynone">fiogf49gjkf0d</div>Thanks gang - still working on this. There are a few things I DO do...like stringing with as many winds around the post as possible, stretching the strings out as soon as they go on, and putting a little pencil graphite on the strings at the nut to be sure they aren't binding or sticking. I couldn't work with the 'float' so the trem's body is bolted to the guitar body and is solidly immmobilized, and once the locking nut is set I tune with the fine tuners. The neck is pretty well straight and good frets, it plays nicely; I haven't adjusted the truss rod since the initial setup.
    As far as which strings - it's definitely not just one string, although some hold tuning better than others.
    It is a low-cost guitar that was upgraded with better parts...the FloydRose eliminated the cheezy-tuner factor, and it has a decent neck on it. But I think maybe it's just not that great a guitar, or perhaps I've become better as a player than my guitar is a guitar???
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