First post - my 3K is on the way from Kansas City, and will be in my eager hands around noon Wednesday. I've been using an RP200A; I actually just replaced mine, since it seemed to have grown legs and walked away over the past few months. At first I wasn't going to spring for the extra money, but I started lurking the posts and decided that it would be nice to be an early adopter rather than a late-comer to the party.
FWIW, I'm playing a Schector 20th anniversary Stealth (Diamond series), and use a Line 6 Spider II 212 amp. Unfortunately the Spider II's don't have an FX return loop, but I created a \"zero\" preset, with neutral EQ, no overdrive, and no effects. (The loudest I ever played was a '6' on the amp, standing about fifteen feet directly in front of it, and it caused me pain. It probably goes to 11, but I just don't have the guts to dial it that high).
For the most part I play on my church's worship team, but I also occasionally play in a 60's-70's rock dance band for oldies gigs (my music). I also play an Ovation Legend (purchased in 1987).
As you might conclude, I'm not looking to play much of Dimebag Darrell's stuff, but we do get into some vintage Eagles, Santana, BTO, Grand Funk, Beatles, Stones, yada yada yada, and I'm trying to move the other guys toward some Doors, The Who, etc., and away from the Everley Brothers and \"Why Must I Be A Teenager In Love.\" It would also be nice to work on some Chicago blues (the Blues Brothers may not be \"real\" blues, but I love the blend of Chicago rhythm, Delta guitar, and east coast horns).
My favorite guitarists are Robert Cray, SRV, and Matt Murphy for blues; Pete Townsend and Annnnggggus for rock; Leo Kottke, Tuck Andress, EVH, Vernon Reid, and Alex Lifeson for the How-Do-They-DO-That category. I never really got Yngwie; too many notes, I guess.
Hello all.. I have to admit that I am now a GNX3000 addict. I have had my GNX for a week now and love everything about it. The sounds are incredible to my ears. I have given up my Boss products and my Behringer as well. I had a GT-6 and V-Amp 2. Both of those units are very good and I had success with both, I just fee the GNX takes my playing to a new level. I won't say it's a better unit, all I can say is that it does inspire me to play more and I enjoy playing through this unit more than any other unit I have had. I play an Epi LP Standard Plus with a SD 59' in the neck and SD Custom in the bridge and also a Fender Sunburst Strat with Jeff Beck Fender pickups. I play through a Crate GT212 amp live and use Cakewalk HS2004 through an M-Audio Audiophile for recording. I hope to contribute to this forum and learn from it as well. Thanks especially to Kewlpack for all the hard work and great info! Keep playing!
My name is Mark and I am a GNX a'holic. I have been addicted for 3 days. I come from a short lived (one weekend) affair with the GT-8, after trying to replace my beloved Digitech RP-14d that has begun to go batty on me. I am a 39 year old 80's rocker and headbanger who has been playing for about 24 years.
My wife is upset, my kids just sit and stare at me, and my cat just shows me his butt now because I am spending so much time PLAYING. Yes PLAYING, not tweaking this and tweaking that. PLAYING.
Thanks to Kewlpack for all of the advice and personal help.
Well, my 3000 arrived yesterday. I've just given it a brief shakedown. Here's what I own/have owned in terms of modelers: Tonelab, Tonelab SE, V-amp, V-amp2, V-amp for bass, X-Vamp. Korg Toneworks for guitar, Korg Toneworks for bass, POD 2.0, POD Pro, POD XT, POD XT Live, Sansamp Original, Toneport, RP80, Zoom G2 and the BOSS GS-10.
My initial impressions. When turning on the 3000, it was nice to not hear that shill frizzy sound of the XT Live. I'm running my stuff into a Peavey Classic 50/50 tube poweramp into two 2x12 cabs. I'll need to do some messing around. I wasn't totally blown away by the 3000 but I really don't have much time on it yet. So far, through a power amp/live, I've been most impressed with the POD Pro. It was a little flat, but and EQ an BBE sonic maximizer really bring it to life. I think the 3000 is going to need the same thing. My initial impression is that it is missing sparkle on the high end. I think the BBE will really fix that.
I've only partially messed with it for direct recording. Again, nothing that has blown me away but I still need to mess with it a bit more. I keep trying all of these modelers for recording and in the end I keep coming back to using the V-Amp. In fact, I've sold all of my V-Amps (thinking the XT was going to do it for me) and in the end keep coming back to them. Right now, I'm using the X-Vamp for recording and I really have to say that it sounds really good. Just because the Behringer is the cheapest of the modelers in no way means its the worst.
Anyway, initial impressions, not bad. I really need to give it a fair shake and one day doesn't do it. Regardless, I got a great deal on it ($349) plus I still need to get my free gig bag. Guess I picked the perfect time to get it.
Remember to turn SC on for 1/4\" outputs - that makes a BIG difference. But I'm sure you've already done that (you have lots of experience from that list of gear!).
Yeah, I think between the two of us, we've owned every modeler available.
The one thing I have noticed in regards to the 3000 is that it records what you hear. In other words, a lot of the other modelers sounded pretty good live and through headphones but what it recorded direct sounded very thin. Nothing like what you hear live. I was messing around a bit more since the last post and the 3000 comes fairly close to the V-amp. In fact, the Pantera/Dimebag patch came extremely close to a patch I had I my X-Vamp. The jury is still out.....I do like the addition of the drum machine. That was one of the features I had really wished my GS-10 had. The learn-a-lick I'll probably do without as I already have a Tascam CD-GT1.
It's comparable to how the POD 2.0 took the next step and became the XT as the GNX3000 has now taken another step up from the XT.
I'll take a POD 2.0 over XT any day. My POD Pro is much more useful than any XT I've heard.
That comment was in relation to tube feel and dynamics especially in cleans/crunches. I've owned the POD 2.0, XT and GNX3000. Each successor has made improvements to tone and feel of strings and dynamics. I couldn't for the life of me find a decent dynamic clean/crunch tone on the 2.0. Although it \"sounded\" OK, it felt lifeless and there was no real noticable difference when playing with new or old strings. I ran each unit through a FRFR system. The 2.0 was by far the most sterile and deadest in terms of feel. The XT improved on the feel (rolling back the guitar's volume cleaned up the sound) but the clean sounds still felt plunky and unresponsive. The GNX3K improved on that even more and made the strings chime more. It's as if the amp models are reacting to your natural guitar sound as compared to your natural guitar sound being processed first then processessed again by the amp modelling. It's much more of a \"feel\" than a \"sound\" thing. The GNX3000 is far more responsive to the way you actually play your guitar than the other two units.
OK. After spending some more time with the GNX, here are my thoughts and some of them are along the same line as others have commented.
Pros:
*No fizzy tone like the XT.
*A lot of editing power.
*The ability to run to line level and amp (Configurable outputs - Yeah baby).
*Two LFO's.
*Digitech Effects quality.
*Number of inputs.
*Not too big, not too small.
*Factory presets are actually usable.
Cons:
*Holy cr@p. What is with that pop when you power the unit off? Warning: Turn off your sound system first or risk blowing a speaker.
*Drum tones are hit and miss.
*Still a bit digital sounding.
*Where are the really high gain amps? (Bogner, Diezel, etc)
*A lot of editing power.
*Trying to hit multiple switches at once. Come on, if I hold down the tuner combo for x seconds, switch to the tuner....
*I really feel like it is missing top end sparkle.
*A master volume on top of unit, not the back.
*Why are all of the jacks so close to the bottom of the unit. Move them up at least 1/4 inch.
*A master eq.....even just a 3 band. I know this seems like overkill since there is an eq on each amp channel, but if you play into different rigs, this makes it easier to match your patches to those systems.
*The colors/design make it look a bit cheap/toylike.
I know, it seems like I have a lot more cons there. Ultimately, I;m going to sell the XT. I really like the XT but the fizzy tone makes it near useless for me for recording purposes.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If I could get a modeler that combined the VOX Tube feel with the BOSS GT/GS effects and the POD amp models, I'd be a happy man. The GNX will be a keeper for now. If the next VOX or Line 6 unit can address their issues, I'll probably get rid of the GNX. Ultimately, I think I'm a bit hard on the modelers because the minute I turn on my modded ADA MP-1, I hear what a good solid state/tube preamp can sound like. Most of these modelers are missing the dynamics. They all sound a bit flat with the exception of the VOX.
Hey all...*waves*...I'm Rhyuma! Um, I'm not a convert yet but I'll be on my way to Guitar Center tonight to trade in my GT6 and buy a GNX3000! I hope they have one in stock. If not I may be forced to close the front gate of the store and hold everybody hostage until one is delivered. ^_^
Ah...right after I posted that message, I went ahead and called GC to see if they had one in stock. They have several! One is sitting behind the counter with my name on it...mwahahaha! Glad to be a part of the community!
Well i started direct to my fender Hot Rod Devile (got rid of my marshall) then got the old Zoom 2020 which worked well, then i got the rp80 which worked suprisingly well, Got a gnx3 from a friend but it was all beat up and had a connection problem and me wife baught me the GNX 3k for christmas. the most awesome piece of equipment i've owned to date...well, the 2nd most awesome.
Hi. Current Pod XT/Atomic user. I have been hanging around your forum for awhile and have decided to give the 3000 a try. Guitar3456 - your sounds are awesome. I should recieve it tomorrow. Any hints on getting a good sound with the Atomic? Should probably use speaker cab sims i suppose? (i know the default is off). Hope I like it better than my xt - will only make me happier cuz i like my xt alot!
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FWIW, I'm playing a Schector 20th anniversary Stealth (Diamond series), and use a Line 6 Spider II 212 amp. Unfortunately the Spider II's don't have an FX return loop, but I created a \"zero\" preset, with neutral EQ, no overdrive, and no effects. (The loudest I ever played was a '6' on the amp, standing about fifteen feet directly in front of it, and it caused me pain. It probably goes to 11, but I just don't have the guts to dial it that high).
For the most part I play on my church's worship team, but I also occasionally play in a 60's-70's rock dance band for oldies gigs (my music). I also play an Ovation Legend (purchased in 1987).
As you might conclude, I'm not looking to play much of Dimebag Darrell's stuff, but we do get into some vintage Eagles, Santana, BTO, Grand Funk, Beatles, Stones, yada yada yada, and I'm trying to move the other guys toward some Doors, The Who, etc., and away from the Everley Brothers and \"Why Must I Be A Teenager In Love.\" It would also be nice to work on some Chicago blues (the Blues Brothers may not be \"real\" blues, but I love the blend of Chicago rhythm, Delta guitar, and east coast horns).
My favorite guitarists are Robert Cray, SRV, and Matt Murphy for blues; Pete Townsend and Annnnggggus for rock; Leo Kottke, Tuck Andress, EVH, Vernon Reid, and Alex Lifeson for the How-Do-They-DO-That category. I never really got Yngwie; too many notes, I guess.
Long answer to a simple question - sorry!
Scott
My wife is upset, my kids just sit and stare at me, and my cat just shows me his butt now because I am spending so much time PLAYING. Yes PLAYING, not tweaking this and tweaking that. PLAYING.
Thanks to Kewlpack for all of the advice and personal help.
I never intended for THAT to happen!
\"Hey, if you come to bed early you might get lucky\",
and you stay up until 1am jammin' on the GNX3000.... :shock: :oops:
I'll take a POD 2.0 over XT any day. My POD Pro is much more useful than any XT I've heard.
My initial impressions. When turning on the 3000, it was nice to not hear that shill frizzy sound of the XT Live. I'm running my stuff into a Peavey Classic 50/50 tube poweramp into two 2x12 cabs. I'll need to do some messing around. I wasn't totally blown away by the 3000 but I really don't have much time on it yet. So far, through a power amp/live, I've been most impressed with the POD Pro. It was a little flat, but and EQ an BBE sonic maximizer really bring it to life. I think the 3000 is going to need the same thing. My initial impression is that it is missing sparkle on the high end. I think the BBE will really fix that.
I've only partially messed with it for direct recording. Again, nothing that has blown me away but I still need to mess with it a bit more. I keep trying all of these modelers for recording and in the end I keep coming back to using the V-Amp. In fact, I've sold all of my V-Amps (thinking the XT was going to do it for me) and in the end keep coming back to them. Right now, I'm using the X-Vamp for recording and I really have to say that it sounds really good. Just because the Behringer is the cheapest of the modelers in no way means its the worst.
Anyway, initial impressions, not bad. I really need to give it a fair shake and one day doesn't do it. Regardless, I got a great deal on it ($349) plus I still need to get my free gig bag. Guess I picked the perfect time to get it.
The one thing I have noticed in regards to the 3000 is that it records what you hear. In other words, a lot of the other modelers sounded pretty good live and through headphones but what it recorded direct sounded very thin. Nothing like what you hear live. I was messing around a bit more since the last post and the 3000 comes fairly close to the V-amp. In fact, the Pantera/Dimebag patch came extremely close to a patch I had I my X-Vamp. The jury is still out.....I do like the addition of the drum machine. That was one of the features I had really wished my GS-10 had. The learn-a-lick I'll probably do without as I already have a Tascam CD-GT1.
That comment was in relation to tube feel and dynamics especially in cleans/crunches. I've owned the POD 2.0, XT and GNX3000. Each successor has made improvements to tone and feel of strings and dynamics. I couldn't for the life of me find a decent dynamic clean/crunch tone on the 2.0. Although it \"sounded\" OK, it felt lifeless and there was no real noticable difference when playing with new or old strings. I ran each unit through a FRFR system. The 2.0 was by far the most sterile and deadest in terms of feel. The XT improved on the feel (rolling back the guitar's volume cleaned up the sound) but the clean sounds still felt plunky and unresponsive. The GNX3K improved on that even more and made the strings chime more. It's as if the amp models are reacting to your natural guitar sound as compared to your natural guitar sound being processed first then processessed again by the amp modelling. It's much more of a \"feel\" than a \"sound\" thing. The GNX3000 is far more responsive to the way you actually play your guitar than the other two units.
Pros:
*No fizzy tone like the XT.
*A lot of editing power.
*The ability to run to line level and amp (Configurable outputs - Yeah baby).
*Two LFO's.
*Digitech Effects quality.
*Number of inputs.
*Not too big, not too small.
*Factory presets are actually usable.
Cons:
*Holy cr@p. What is with that pop when you power the unit off? Warning: Turn off your sound system first or risk blowing a speaker.
*Drum tones are hit and miss.
*Still a bit digital sounding.
*Where are the really high gain amps? (Bogner, Diezel, etc)
*A lot of editing power.
*Trying to hit multiple switches at once. Come on, if I hold down the tuner combo for x seconds, switch to the tuner....
*I really feel like it is missing top end sparkle.
*A master volume on top of unit, not the back.
*Why are all of the jacks so close to the bottom of the unit. Move them up at least 1/4 inch.
*A master eq.....even just a 3 band. I know this seems like overkill since there is an eq on each amp channel, but if you play into different rigs, this makes it easier to match your patches to those systems.
*The colors/design make it look a bit cheap/toylike.
I know, it seems like I have a lot more cons there. Ultimately, I;m going to sell the XT. I really like the XT but the fizzy tone makes it near useless for me for recording purposes.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If I could get a modeler that combined the VOX Tube feel with the BOSS GT/GS effects and the POD amp models, I'd be a happy man. The GNX will be a keeper for now. If the next VOX or Line 6 unit can address their issues, I'll probably get rid of the GNX. Ultimately, I think I'm a bit hard on the modelers because the minute I turn on my modded ADA MP-1, I hear what a good solid state/tube preamp can sound like. Most of these modelers are missing the dynamics. They all sound a bit flat with the exception of the VOX.
As it seems like the majoirty of POD owners and/or Line 6 groupies then to hate everything that isn't Line 6 or POD.
thx...
geo
Before that, I designed and made Fuzz boxes, Wahs, Compressors and ADSR modifiers out of discrete electronics.
I gifted a Behringer XVamp to my Nephew so I have a bit of experience on that.
Well i started direct to my fender Hot Rod Devile (got rid of my marshall) then got the old Zoom 2020 which worked well, then i got the rp80 which worked suprisingly well, Got a gnx3 from a friend but it was all beat up and had a connection problem and me wife baught me the GNX 3k for christmas. the most awesome piece of equipment i've owned to date...well, the 2nd most awesome.