Where's a good place to learn new things

cfsguitar · July 2009

Hello out there!

How's it goin'? 8)

Well it seems lately I've peen getting bored with my playing.
Everytime i go to write a song or solo i keep using the same chords and
scales that I learned long ago. And have just been getting sick of how it sounds.
I just know the basic major and minor scales and chords and also the barred 7th chords.

So I was wondering if you guys knew of any sites, books, or videos to learn new styles.

Thanks for the help.

PEACE 8)

shredd · July 2009

I dunno about books n vids n stuff, cuz I'm too lazy to read and too dumb to operate my TV. :P

However...I've always found that it's fun to browse YouTube - it just seems like one vid leads you to another. And there's lots of people who've posted vids of themselves playing this or that, which gives you the chance to try to pick it up yourself...not to mention that there's vids of all kinds of music you'd never thought about listening to - and you'll always something new that strikes your ear right and makes you wanna take a crack at it.

While you're at it...would you explain to me what it's like to be good enough at something to be bored with it??? :oops:

iliace · July 2009

I would suggest learning more jazzy stuff. I like books, so here are some I could recommend:

All Blues for Jazz Guitar (Jim Ferguson) - studying this will add a lot of variety to your blues/rock playing

Comping Styles for Guitar, Vol 2 Funk (Bruce Arnold) - not only can you get funky and learn some variations on common progressions, but also crank up the distortion and you got some pretty creative rock riffs.

21st Century Pro Method Jazz Guitar (Doug Munro) - there are two volumes, both of which are valuable. Although this may be too jazz for some people's taste, it will teach you scales and progressions you may have not otherwise tried and discovered.

Advancing Guitarist (Mick Goodrich) - a very good all-around book for when you've run out of things to learn, practice, and write. It's somewhat of a brain dump by the author, of ways to explore chords and scales you learned long ago, in new ways. Word of warning, though - this book has no tabs, only standard notation.

Hope that helps.

hodge · July 2009

Youtube is PACKED with lessons, ideas, equipment demos. There are backing tracks available..great for peeling off new solo ideas...
Google is your friend.., I spend at least 3-4 hrs. a week sniffin around on the web just to keep up with what's going on in the guitar world.

Manitou · July 2009

Doug Doppler's Guitar 411 DVD

What helped me the most, was Doug Doppler's lesson DVD. He was a student of Joe Satriani. Joe also passed his teaching studio onto Doug, when Joe began his first major tour 20 years ago.
This DVD will change the way you see music, and your fretboard. Music construction and progression will come alive. When you lay down a simple track of power chords, triad chords, 7 chords, 9 chords, sus chords or stacked chords, etc. and you have the laws of diatonic harmony hard-wired into your brain, .... you won't be able to stop coming up with new stuff.

Here is a link to some video clips on the Guitar 411- Diatonic Theory and Harmony (lesson DVD)
http://www.guitar411.com/g411_1_video.html

I consider this DVD a must have above all the other stuff out there, but....get lesson DVD's that appeal to you, and download dozens of lessons off YouTube, with a firefox downloader, and stick them in a document file. I downloaded Petrucci's entire Rock Discipline, dozens of Satriani, Gilbert, Friedman lessons, etc. off YouTube. This stuff will not only teach you new ways of playing, but give you musical vocabulary.
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Here are some quick links to some of the lessons I was referring to.
You can scroll through and find the entire lesson DVD's like Petrucci's Rock Discipline, or continue to search out more and more lessons and interviews to learn from...all free. You can install a video downloader on FireFox, and download these right to a file on your computer, then you always have them easy to find, or take with you.

Petrucci Rock Discipline 1-12 lessons
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=petrucci+rock+discipline&search_type=&aq=0&oq=Petrucci+rock

Paul Gilbert (I have 30 Gilbert lessons i downloaded, and there are likely more now. It's been a year since I've looked)
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=paul+gilbert+lesson&search_type=&aq=0&oq=Paul+Gilbert

Satch
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=satriani+lesson&search_type=&aq=7&oq=Satr

Marty Friedman
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Friedman+lesson&search_type=&aq=f

I also like Justin Sandercoe, and many others. It's almost endless, and new stuff keeps coming out.
Save this stuff onto your computer, because sometimes they get removed off YouTube.
Back your files up on an external hardrive.
I've also installed to my video iPod to take with me, or play on my TV. 8)

Here are the links to the downloader and a video viewer.

FireFox video downloader-- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006

You will need a video player to view your YouTube downloads.
I like to use this one. http://www.martijndevisser.com/blog/flv-player/

BTW...
That downloader lets you download mp3 audio too, then you can send it right to your favorite player. I use iTunes.
Anyway, as a for instance... this site has an audio link to a demo Joe Satriani made.
http://www.peavey.com/products/browse.cfm/action/detail/item/116592/JSX

Under the Audio tab, >Listen to the Mini Colossal
It takes you to this mp3 >> http://www.peavey.com/assets/media/audio/00590670_5.mp3 ...

pretty awesome free Joe song...huh.
and you can download this to your player to put it on your iPod or CD.
You can do the same with backing tracks, then hook it to your guitar processor. 8)

judaskiss · July 2009

I think maitou just about covered it. I learned a new chord technique from a demo cd. The guitar player was showing what a new flanger could do. Just in that 10 second clip--I wrote a new song. Its definitly video for me, cause I play by ear. Another student, BTW, of Joe Satriani is Steve Vai. And in case you didn't know Joe has a new CD with a new band called Chickfoot(yes, I said Chickenfoot) Very good CD with Sammy Hagar, who always adds alot of energy to a band, bass player is Michael Anthony(VanHalen)and Steve Smith(Red Hot Chili Peppers) I think Steve is used to the strange names by now. Good luck on the new suff--don't forget to post in the music section so we can hear.

gtaus · July 2009

Great thread. I'm responding just to keep updated on all the good stuff you guys are coming up with in this thread.

cfsguitar · July 2009

WOW :shock:

Thanks guys so much this will definetly help my playing out alot.

Big thanks to Manitou for all the work with those links. And I'll definetly check out that DVD seems like the thing that i've been looking for.

I remember watching the Petrucci Video a long time ago and took alot of alt. picking technique from it but I forgot how much information he covers so thanks for the links so I can study the video alot better.

Also thanks illiace for the book recomendations that Comparing Styles for Guitar sounds very intresting and something I'll try and pick up.

To shredd: I don't know about being \"good\" but I definetly if all you can play is one or two scales for a it gets boring and you just wanna get better. Hopefully though with all these lessons one day I might be good.

Anyway thanks again.

PEACE 8)

PhatElvis · July 2009

I've researched all the online guitar instruction sites and found that True Fire University is by far the best I've come across. Every genre of guitar is offered with top notch instructors. Check it out and dig in.
http://truefire.com/tfu.html

Tal Rules · July 2009

This one's too easy....
JBGI (Jimmy Bruno Guitar Institute).. A mere $20.00 a month, with PERSONAL instruction, by one of the worlds premiere guitarists..

http://www.jimmybrunoguitarinstitute.com/public/main.cfm

I've been there 2 years, and I can assure you...If you sign up...You'll never be bored again..

To show you what kind of cat we're talking about here's a youtube vid of Jimmy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMVAyf9s2o0

My son takes on-line PERSONAL guitar instruction, from Andreas Oberg..
Same gig $20.00 a month. He's progressing rapidly as well with NO BOREDOM!!! Just a monster player as well

http://www.andreasguitaruniverse.com/

Here's Andres doing his thing on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnITpsh42Ks

What's so cool is that both guys give out assignments, you send in a video of the assignment, they critique it and move on.. Forums on both sites, where you can ask either guy questions, and talk with other students..

Very cool, for very little bread!!!

Different teaching methods from both guys.. Andres teaches modal techniques, Jimmy teaches inside, outside notes instead..As you can see, both methods can be highly effective..

So as Jimmy says,,\"When you're ready to cut out all the Nonsense, and learn to play..\"...

iliace · July 2009

\Tal Rules\ wrote:

My son takes on-line PERSONAL guitar instruction, from Andreas Oberg..
Same gig $20.00 a month. He's progressing rapidly as well with NO BOREDOM!!! Just a monster player as well

Whoa! :shock: Whatever happened to his Dragonforce obsession?

Tal Rules · July 2009

\iliace\ wrote:

\Tal Rules\ wrote:

My son takes on-line PERSONAL guitar instruction, from Andreas Oberg..
Same gig $20.00 a month. He's progressing rapidly as well with NO BOREDOM!!! Just a monster player as well

Whoa! :shock: Whatever happened to his Dragonforce obsession?

He outgrew it..Thank god!!!LOL..

Gib · July 2009

\shredd\ wrote:

I've always found that it's fun to browse YouTube - it just seems like one vid leads you to another. And there's lots of people who've posted vids of themselves playing this or that, which gives you the chance to try to pick it up yourself...not to mention that there's vids of all kinds of music you'd never thought about listening to - and you'll always something new that strikes your ear right and makes you wanna take a crack at it.

This is so true! You can find new things to help you where you'd least expect it.
For instance, I clicked on the Paul Gilbert link in Manitou's post just for a look see and in that video he explains how he holds his pick in order to play faster.
I tried it and instantly I was playing a little faster!

I'll never be able to play with his speed but just that simple little adjustment made a big difference!
I paid a price for it though: after a few minutes I could feel a pinching between the triceps and deltoid muscles on the upper part of my picking arm.
Oh well, I guess it's like they say - \"no pain, no gain.\"

Manitou · July 2009

I have become bipolar because of Gilbert.

He can make things look easy, and I'll start out thinking ...\"cool 8) ...far out man!\" I love Gilbert!

Soon though I change, and get real ugly, and retort; ...

you Gilbert! ...I hate that guy!

My pain is mostly in the forehead.

Tal Rules · August 2009

Just found this...
CHET ATKIN'S GIVING A LESSON, and giving away his ULTRA TOP SECRETS!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoHRx_YP6JE&

Just had to share...

Rawb · August 2009

He11 if that method was that good, I'd be everything my pa wanted me to be! And then some! Chit I'd be on every cover of every music rag out there!

BettyBoo · August 2009

I really recommend that English magazine - Guitar Techniques. I been playing a long time and I've got more out of this mag than all my books and vids combined. I try and get it every month, at least when I can find it and it'll fill up my guitar month no probs. It comes with a disc that plays all the licks/exercises and usually has a video on it as well so it makes following the tab easy. Lots of different styles every month, and they usually have a special feature on a particular guitarist/style each issue. I find the American magazines just stuffed with ads and about guitarists who are (IMO) garbage. Guitar Techniques is about instruction - plus it has Guthrie Govan as an instructor so surely that deems it worth while!

Manitou · August 2009

\BettyBoo\ wrote:

I really recommend that English magazine - Guitar Techniques.

Thanks Boo!

I checked it out, and looks great... just what I want in a guitar mag.

BettyBoo · August 2009

\Manitou\ wrote:

\BettyBoo\ wrote:

I really recommend that English magazine - Guitar Techniques.

Thanks Boo!
I checked it out, and looks great... just what I want in a guitar mag.

Yep you'll get a ton of mileage from that mag Tou

I'm always flicking back through old issues.

I used to be hell bent on cloning the usual big names (which aint bad of course) but this mag opened me up to a lot of styles and players I hadn't heard much of before and just having those other influences has improved my playing no end.......or at least I have an appreciation on what I could sound like if I practiced more :oops:

Guys like Bonnamassa and Guthrie Govan :shock: of course! - these guys have been a big influence on me over the last 2 years. I get a lot out of the jazz/fusion and blues stuff in the mag but I was blown away when they had a feature on Brad Paisley - that guy is a freak!

No worries Tou, glad I could help ya.

Rawb · August 2009

Tou, did you find a hard copy or online?

Sounds interesting.... as discussed in this topic...

http://www.guitarworkstation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9266

The usuall suspects just don't cut it anymore!

:roll:

Manitou · August 2009

I searched around online, and read some reviews, and from Boo's description and what I viewed,
I'm satisfied.

I sent them an email requesting a trial mag, or a link to view them online.
I'll let you know what they say.

MetalHead · August 2009

<div style="displaynone">fiogf49gjkf0d</div>Hi, great thread, especially for a electric-newbie like myself (i have been playing classical guitar for a long time and lately switched to electric)

there's also John Petrucci's Wild Stringdom, check it out
http//www.amazon.com/Guitar-World-Presents-Petruccis-Stringdom/dp/0769291023/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251459441&sr=8-1

I am using Petrucci's DVD Rock Discipline as my guide for practice (for over a year now),
and the Wild Stringdom seems like the next logical step.

Rawb · November 2009

\Manitou\ wrote:

I searched around online, and read some reviews, and from Boo's description and what I viewed,
I'm satisfied.

I sent them an email requesting a trial mag, or a link to view them online.
I'll let you know what they say.

Well? .. Did you get it? Is it everything boo says it is.... Do they take dollars or did ya have to get some quid or lbs or whatever they use over there?

Manitou · November 2009

Rawb--
I viewed enough of the mag online, and it reminded me of the old Guitar One mag, with the lessons and CD. Guitar One's teacher was Tom Kolb, and every month had guest teachers. They featured sheet music with tabs, etc. and had monthly GNX4 patches.

I didn't subscribe to Guitar Techniques. For USA you go through IMS News. Third party, but same magazine. Yearly sub is $118. It's all great stuff, and I did learn allot with magazines, but I need to go in a different direction right now.

I'm back to beating myself up with/over discipline.
Metronome work, increasing speed, lots of arpeggio and legato drills for my muting problems. I'm just too lazy and slow, and until I get my butt up to speed, I'm going nowhere. I play too much cover stuff at slower speeds, and end up not knowing music any better, so I stopped all tab work and force myself to play by notes, scales, keys, etc. and I'm understanding more as I go.

Maybe I'll join an online lesson program, like Tal does. I think that would make me try harder. I just know another magazine (after thinking about it) will just keep me in my rut.

OH for the love of GOD!
I'll never get it!!
I'm too old for this sheit!

Where's a good place to learn new things

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