Need advice (and settings) for adding DELAY to a patch...
Hi All
I have a VERY important gig coming up (it is a bit hush hush
) and I want to add a bit of \"sparkle\" to one of my standard patches
I have always had a keyboard player in my band so I have traditionally keept my patches/tone really clean to cut through the mix
Now that the keyboard player has retired I want to thicken my sound a little
Having invested in the PHENOMENAL MFX Supermodels I have found some great patches that have slotted right into my \"palette\"
I use a GNX2 (fantastic unit coupled with the Supermodels!) and I need some help / advice with adding DELAY to a patch - I am REALLY inexperienced with using delay so am a bit nervous about ruining the feel
Because it is general DELAY advice I need I have posted here rather than the GNX2 forums
I am using the \"JIMI H\" patch from the MFX Supermodels CD as a base lead patch for the \"Purple Rain\" solo in our set
I want to add a little delay to this solo but I need a setting that will not be dependant on the tempo of the song to \"work\" - due to the excitement of the occasion it is very unlikely the tempo will be anywhere near where we rehearse it :oops:
i.e. I need a DELAY that will work with any tempo (i.e. not matching BPM with Delay Repeats) but I need it to be long enough to have the impact
Before I start fiddling with buttons can anyone recommend some good starting points for the settings - ideally suited for the GNX2 and Supermodels
Fanks all
I have a VERY important gig coming up (it is a bit hush hush
) and I want to add a bit of \"sparkle\" to one of my standard patchesI have always had a keyboard player in my band so I have traditionally keept my patches/tone really clean to cut through the mix
Now that the keyboard player has retired I want to thicken my sound a little
Having invested in the PHENOMENAL MFX Supermodels I have found some great patches that have slotted right into my \"palette\"
I use a GNX2 (fantastic unit coupled with the Supermodels!) and I need some help / advice with adding DELAY to a patch - I am REALLY inexperienced with using delay so am a bit nervous about ruining the feel
Because it is general DELAY advice I need I have posted here rather than the GNX2 forums
I am using the \"JIMI H\" patch from the MFX Supermodels CD as a base lead patch for the \"Purple Rain\" solo in our set
I want to add a little delay to this solo but I need a setting that will not be dependant on the tempo of the song to \"work\" - due to the excitement of the occasion it is very unlikely the tempo will be anywhere near where we rehearse it :oops:
i.e. I need a DELAY that will work with any tempo (i.e. not matching BPM with Delay Repeats) but I need it to be long enough to have the impact
Before I start fiddling with buttons can anyone recommend some good starting points for the settings - ideally suited for the GNX2 and Supermodels
Fanks all
Comments
As far as other settings, use low feedback or high ducker attenuation. Try mono delay first, especially if you're only running one side of the GNX. If you're running in stereo, you might successfully use pong delay.
I am aware of \"Tap Tempo\" but I use the GNX2 in \"Performance Mode\" where I hit each pedal to get the patch I want
Thanks for the heads up on the other bits - I am assuming low feedback is keeping the volume of the repeats low (or do you mean only have a low number of repeats?)
I have never heard of \"ducker attenuation\" :shock: - what is that?
Any recommended settings/values to get me started?
Ducker attenuation is the amount by which the volume of each repeat is reduced, relative to how loudly you're playing.
You can get to this setting in one of two ways: easiest, with GenEdit and a computer, and trickier, using the expression pedal assignment. There is no matrix column for ducker attenuation, but you can still assign it to the expression pedal as a parameter.
To start you can try any number of things, but for an example: Mono delay, time = 300 ms, feedback = 5, level = 15.
If you get too many repeats, lower the feedback. If you want more repeats, increase feedback.
If the delay is too loud, turn down the level. If there's not enough delay - I would be careful making it any louder, especially for large live settings - but you can increase the level.
If the delay level is okay, but the repeats are too loud, this is where the ducker comes in. Ducker threshold adjusts how loud your incoming guitar signal needs to be before it starts attenuating. 0 means any little noise will trigger the ducker, and 99 means only a very loud signal will trigger it. Ducker attenuation determines how much each subsequent tap of the delay gets softer. Attenuation of 0 produces no decrease in volume regardless of input signal. Attenuation of 99 reduces all taps pretty much to nothing, as soon as the threshold is exceeded.
You really have to play around with those last two settings. It all depends on your picking dynamics, kind of guitar and pickups you have, etc.
I couldn't have asked for a better explanation, thank you very much
I didn't want to start experimenting until I had a vague idea of what it was all about - you have set me off in the right direction
Thanks again
Boydie