RP1000 - Hmmm.. Intresting. Any insider details?

GuitarKidd · November 2008

http://www.digitech.com/products/Multi-Effects/RP1000.php

Digitech looks to be releasing a new RP, the RP1000. Looks really nice, and the features sound pretty cool. But what's the price.

http://www.proaudiostar.com/servlet/the-4513/DigiTech-RP1000,RP-1000,Integrated-Effect/Detail

I can see $400.00, but anything more than that, and I would just go with the GSP1101. I hope digitech makes the smart move with the price on this thing, or I might be moving to POD or Boss.

iliace · November 2008

I'm guessing it will run around the same as a POD X3. If you look at the current competition, it's like this:

GT-10 = $499
POD X3 = $499
RP500 = $299
ToneLab = $399

The RP1000 might go for 399, but I'm guessing it's gonna be more like 499.

GuitarKidd · November 2008

\iliace\ wrote:

I'm guessing it will run around the same as a POD X3. If you look at the current competition, it's like this:

GT-10 = $499
POD X3 = $499
RP500 = $299
ToneLab = $399

The RP1000 might go for 399, but I'm guessing it's gonna be more like 499.

I just don't know if having the flexability with an amp is enough to ask $500.00. The X3 and GT10, give you a few more options with the actual tone, tone path, effects placement, dual signals, EQ, etc.,..

I do like the phrase looper though. That was one thing that caught my attention, and the GT-10 has as one as well. Think of what you used to get for $500.00 and now it seems we are losing features so that we can play nicely with amps.

Also, why not throw in another DNA2 chip. The GSP1101 has two, and the tonal difference is apparent to those that have compared the GSP with a RP model.

I hope your wrong Iliace, but I think you might be right....

iliace · November 2008

The new RPs do have more flexible effects placement than the GNXs. You can move the modulation effect, and some other stuff too (I forget exactly). The GSP is not much more flexible, but it does have the second chip which is awesome.

Anyway, we'll find out in late December, that's when it hits the stores.

GuitarKidd · November 2008

I guess it's going for $500.00

However Musicians Friend is saying the availability date is January 30th 2009. Not coming out before Christmas. Somewhat of a huge mistake I think. Or is Musicians Friend way off...?

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/DigiTech-RP1000-Guitar-Multi-Effects-Pedal?sku=150613

iliace · November 2008

The date I was given is December 22nd. There may have been a delay or something.

T L F · November 2008

That $500 price tag seems \"wrong\" to me. For what you get it seems like $399 would have been more in line with the value...Why wouldn't you just go get a GSP?

iliace · November 2008

Because this one comes with a pedalboard built in.

GuitarKidd · November 2008

\T L F\ wrote:

That $500 price tag seems \"wrong\" to me. For what you get it seems like $399 would have been more in line with the value...Why wouldn't you just go get a GSP?

And where is the second DNA2 chip. And like the POD and Boss units, the floor model is usually cheaper than the rack mount...

I'm with you TLF, for the same money, get the GSP.

bluesland · December 2008

I've just read the manual and it seems very promissing.
The price, is in the range of the Boss GT-10 which is its closest competitor, so I think is right.

mannydingo · April 2009

Hi, guys. I'm new here. I own the unit. Yeah, it's $500 but I got mine new for $400. Anyway, I sold my GT-10 which is better than this unit. Then why am I keeping this one over the GT-10? Because distortions and hi-gain on the GT-10 suck. I like going straight to P.A. and don't like using tube guitar amps. I don't want to carry amps, period. Monitor, yes but amp, no.

If you are going to use your own guitar amp for distortion then the GT-10 is better than anything. However, it's a modeler so, if you're not going to use the amp sims on the GT-10 then $500 is too much for it.

I have, however, come across a big problem with the RP1000. The harmonizer is unusable. The notes quiver and shake. It tracks the notes correctly but they tremble randomly. You never know when you're going to get it. It may be caused by extremely minimal vibration of other strings that can't always be muted while playing. This is a HUGE problem for someone like me but no problem for those who rarely use a harmonizer.

If I ignore the harmonizer problem, the RP1000 sound is EXCELLENT!
I don't need a guitar amp with how good this sounds. I can run it straight to P.A. or, for smaller applications, run it through my keyboard combo amp. Like that I have my keyboard and guitar with the need for only one amp.

BettyBoo · April 2009

Welcome to the forum manny!

There's a good bunch of people on this forum to chat with so hope you enjoy it. I've never been a big fan of the harmonizer on the GNX's I've owned here either but there's so many other good features and sounds with the Digitech stuff I pretty much ignore it. Actually, there's not many bits of music gear out there that are completely perfect I guess - there's always something that could be that little bit better.....if music gear was perfect we'd never suffer from GAS would we

I was looking at a GT-10 a while back too and thought the same as you. However, for me I was probably used to the sound/tone of my GNX, they set a pretty high benchmark I think.

BBoo

mannydingo · April 2009

\BettyBoo\ wrote:

Welcome to the forum manny!....I've never been a big fan of the harmonizer on the GNX's I've owned here either

Thanks for the welcome. I'm on other forums too. One thing is to not be a big fan of an effect a particular unit is doing, another thing is not being able to use it from how bad it is. For example, most of the GT-10's distortions sound bad but, if there was no other unit to choose from, you could still play live or record with it. The harmonizer on the RP1000 is actually, let's call it \"broken\".

It's not one of those things that, like GT-10's hi-gains, can be used live just fine live but will sound just not-so-good. You can live with that. With this problem, the non-guitarist audience would literally say Yuk, what the heck technical problem are they having? OR, That guitarist is messing up in his playing. I already contacted Digitech about it. They couldn't offer a cure.

guitar3456 · April 2009

About the pitch shifters. Those require serious DSP horsepower to provide tracking and note articulation. Eventides and other rack processors can handle that to an extent, but are still not perfect. TC's products are okay to about 3 notes, but beyond that it can get messy.

H series Eventides will land you better articulation but that is $5000 piece of hardware and even with that, players and artists have to work with certain boundaries of that hardware. That depends on how judgmental that artist is when using it. When you hear guys like Steve Vai and John Petrucci having issues presented from their rack H series processors.. some are extremely critical.

BettyBoo · April 2009

If I could play as well as Vai or Petrucci I could forgive myself for being that critical I guess!

For some reason this reminds me about Malmsteen. A mate of mine and I were watching Yngwie on a G3 DVD a while back. My mates not a guitarist at all but loved his playing. I began telling him how many guitarists in the world think he's a pompous, love-myself a-hole and my mate just bluntly said, well if I had his genius and could play like that I would probably forgive myself for being an a-hole too! Funny but true.... :roll:

guitar3456 · April 2009

Thing is... Vai, Petrucci, Yngwie would all sound like themselves on a Gorilla amp and $99 guitar. Some of these guys are just very gifted and did nothing but hone their craft most of their lives. Their personalities are for TMZ critics and gossip magazine readers to toil and debate.

iliace · April 2009

\guitar3456\ wrote:

Thing is... Vai, Petrucci, Yngwie would all sound like themselves on a Gorilla amp and $99 guitar. Some of these guys are just very gifted and did nothing but hone their craft most of their lives. Their personalities are for TMZ critics and gossip magazine readers to toil and debate.

Case and point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9v5e1TTwts

I know I've posted this before, but I love that video.

RP1000 - Hmmm.. Intresting. Any insider details?

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