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Get out of My Head (now!)

Hey All.

http://www.digitech.com/soundcomm/patches/GNX4/GetOutofMyHead2.mp3

A remake of a song I wrote a while back:

Recorded and mixed using SONAR 6/Producter (with my Tascam FW 1082) and mastered/tweaked using Sound Forge 8.0.

Guitars: Me using a Les Paul/GNX4/Guitar Rig2 (used a distorted GNX4 patch with a Guitar Rig2 effect for the heavy part).

KeyBoard: My brother using a Yamaha Motif Rock Organ. Have never used keyboards in my songs...so was a little leary. Should I take it out?

Drums: Me using Roland TD20.

Bass Guitar: My brother using an Ibanez bass throuh the GNX4 (bypass).

Vocals: Me using Audio Technica condesor Mic. Not happy with the vocals. Kind of a Godsmack meets the Bee Gees sound.

Lyrics: I wrote them a couple of years back. Kind of sappy and mopey, but the way I was feeling at the time. A lot of regret and remorse...poor me :'(

Your honest feedback is appreciated and will be taken to heart.

Thank you.

Comments

  • Well, I liked it. Then again, I'm the guy who wants to hot tub with Anne Hathaway. :roll:

    The only critiques I'd offer:
    The vocals had a different tambre than the rest of the song, like they were recorded at a different studio and added to the song later.
    The solo git'r was a neat sound but wiped out the rest of the mix...tone it down a bit?

    But overall a pretty cool tune!!! I'd leave the k/b's in, they're good.
  • Thanks for the feedback. I have struggled with the vocals, besides the fact that I can't sing. I will work on them a bit. I will tone down the distorted guitar part as well.
  • \Moxioron\ wrote:
    Thanks for the feedback. I have struggled with the vocals, besides the fact that I can't sing. I will work on them a bit. I will tone down the distorted guitar part as well.
    :lol::lol: Join the club. My vocals sound like I'm the love child of Gilbert Gottfried and Fran Drescher. :shock:
    But the vocals in this tune were really pretty good...I just thought they didn't quite fit into the mix. As if they'd been recorded differently and put into the song afterward.
    Lots of guys here much more talented than I have posted about mixing...but the gneral gist seems to be:
    Give each instrument/sound it's \"space\"; meaning that sounds of similar tambre or frequency range will compete with each other, so at the very least separate them in the mix.
    I have a liking of the theory of spreading sounds across the stereo mix to give each a different placement, so when you listen you hear each sound coming from a slightly different \"place\" in the mix.
  • Dude you are so right about that. When you can hear a song and envision a large room since everything is spaced out it sounds so great. But it's one thing to want it and a whole different thing to actually be able to do it. I'm hoping to become one of those who can do it, but I'm not anywhere close yet. Hey shredd any ideas as to how to begin this process of assigning parameters to the instruments so as to avoid a muddy sound?
  • Dude you are so right about that. When you can hear a song and envision a large room since everything is spaced out it sounds so great. But it's one thing to want it and a whole different thing to actually be able to do it. I'm hoping to become one of those who can do it, but I'm not anywhere close yet. Hey shredd any ideas as to how to begin this process of assigning parameters to the instruments so as to avoid a muddy sound?
    Yes. Invite Mutt Lange over to engineer your recordings while you sit in the hot tub with his wife (Shania). That's what I do. :lol:
    In reality, cleaning up a sound is highly subjective. Most of the guys here with tons of recording experience will tell you that the thing to do is record vocals or even a git'r dry, then add EQ and effects afterward. That makes good sense.
    I put a lot of emphasis in my mixings on spacing things out and not crowding the mix, and having the various sounds co-exist nicely.
    I can't computer record, so I tend to go for the sound I want when recording.
    With vocals, I've found that the biggest mistakes are over-effecting and too much reverb. And using compression is very helpful.
    With git'rs and the like, if you're getting a muddy sound, chances are you've got too much bass eq'd and not enough mid/presence/high. Since every ax and mic etc is different, you have to experiment, and get things dialed in the way you want them to sound. I actually have patches on my GNX just for a particular mic or git'r sound.
  • Someone has a hot tub fetish :oops:

    Seriously though, thanks for the tips.
  • \Moxioron\ wrote:
    Someone has a hot tub fetish :oops:
    Seriously though, thanks for the tips.
    You're welcome.
    And I don't apologize for my love for hot tubs...not only do they feel great to soak in, but it's a MUCH better place to enjoy the company of gorgeous women than is a bbq restaurant or a softball game. 8)
  • I have to agree with Shredds first post here. Although the mix is pretty the vocals should be dominant when singing vocals and should be clear so they can be understood. It seems as though you were holding back somewhat, let those vocals ripp from the soul!! :D Also the lead guitar is drounding out the rest of the song but has a kool sound to it, just cut back a bit and then once you get all that squared away, hit the entire song with a mastering controller. Good song though so far. :D:D John
  • Hey I think I remember this song?? You did post it here right? Anyhow I like it!! i dig your style!! Your vocals were fine!! Song was cool!! 8) I think you have alot of tallent!! Keep using it man!! 8)
  • Very cool man, keep em comin. 8)
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