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How do you repair an Indo guitar?

LuredMaulLuredMaul
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Throw it in a Lake! LOL No, seriously it's almost impossible the wood is soft and gummy, strangest thing I EVER saw.

B.C. Rich \"Low line\" CRAP!
have setup afew only to find the trem spring claw screws held in by wire insulation \"From the Factory\" or the stop tail piece studs not pressed or glued to the body. EVH WolfGang, maybe it's me but I've NEVER seen a good one and have set-up many. New Gibsons are so over priced it's stupid.........those SilverTone Paul Stanley models are just slightly better than a \"First Act\"

and speaking of those, Good Lord those are Horrid, there is no waty to properly replace a nut on one of those things the headstock is so off it's funny.

Anyway, just a Ramble and I'll think of more I have been doing repairs for 15yrs and it still amazes me some of the Companies alow out the door
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  • D.AlexanderD.Alexander
    wow! You said you had some good stories, but... wire insulation onthe trem screws? WTF? The P. Stanley gutiars, i was in Hastings today and was looking at those, is Silvertone owned by the same company as First Act? They were selling Les P copies in sealed boxes for $499! You can buy a hell of nice guitar that you can actually pick up try out for that kind of cash.
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  • glp_78glp_78
    I agree that Gibson is overpriced, I love those guitars, but come on.......why is the price so high? Don't like BC Rich, all the ones I have ever worked on were very poorly made, maybe some high end models are better. Speaking of First Act, believe it or not they make high end guitars that are supposed to be pretty good. Hard to imagine, huh. For the cash they want though for the \"guitar in a box\" at WalMart, you could get a better guitar for the money. I think it's just the ignorance of the shopper, the kid says he wants a guitar, and Mom thinks, oh I saw some at WalMart. The thorn in my side is the low end ESP LTD models. I have heard twenty times in the last month \"it won't stay in tune\". crappy bridge, crappy tuners, poorly notched nut = out of tune
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  • Tal RulesTal Rules
    There's a reason for the company logo... :twisted:
    \"Only a Gibson is good Enough\"

    You get what you pay for... :lol:

    Long time Gibson player... 8)

    Gibson Rules.... :lol::lol::lol:
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  • glp_78glp_78
    I am a big Gibson fan too. I have bought the two I own used though and in rough shape, fixer uppers. Replaced lots of stuff with original Gibson hardware and bingo. Even though, they were in the 800-1000 range. Gibson's quality and playability are unrivaled, no question there. I still think they are overpriced though.
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  • LuredMaulLuredMaul
    D.Alexander the \"SilverTone\" name is OWNED by Samick :) yep it is I swer

    Essentially if you buy a Samick L.P copy you have an Epi and some say BETTER than the Epi

    glp_78: I wasn't impressed with the ESP line about 5yrs ago when it was offered to us (I really wanted to like it so`s I could git a deal on a George Lynch guitar, \"my Hero\") and I haven't had enough in for repair to complain about then too much

    The low line Jacksons are Funky lots of cheap hardware mainly the Lock Nut strips out more often than it locks anything, the trem arms need to go directly to the trash and reordered from a better manfacturer

    As far as Gibson I wasn't knocking the entire Company just the NEW STUFF in the last 10yrs or so
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  • glp_78glp_78
    How bout Schecter. I haven't had to do anything to them except set them up. No complaints either, but I haven't owned one.
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  • Slacker GSlacker G
    Yeah,

    I have been in the repair business since 1962. And through the years I have found many high quality guitars made by little yeller fellers. Pickups generally sucked, but the hardware and craftsmanship as far as construction was as good as or even better than a lot of the American Assembley line junk. {Never have seen any slanty eyed wood in their exports.}

    Through the years I have found more bad Gibson necks than I can count. Usually that double curve fron the nut to the 4th or 5th fret, then another curve from the 6th to the 10th. A great many of them had a real dip from the nut to the 5th. Big companies seem to go through spurts of good and poor quality years. I have owned a good many brand name guitars that I couldn't wait to get rid of. ESPECIALLY sad for the high prices they charge. But I don't especially care for Fender off the rack wares either. You can find good Gibsons and Fenders, but you sure shouldn't purchase the first ones you play. Play lots and lots of them.


    Now the only guitars I will use for myself are home constructed with Warmoth bodies and necks. I just prefer their craftsmanship and tone woods to a lot of the assline crap out there.
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  • D.AlexanderD.Alexander
    Does anybody know if the crew who left Gibson and fornmed \"Heritage\" ever started a low end line with offshore construction in Asia? i don't know if they would ever have to do somthing like this but it seems like they would be very particular in quality.
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  • Tal RulesTal Rules
    Not that I've heard of good Dr...

    I've played one of these and it isndeed a very fine axe..

    http://www.heritageguitar.com/models/GoldenEagle.htm

    I've been wanting to play one of these with the 18\" body, (Like a super 400) but have'nt located one yet locally to play...

    http://www.heritageguitar.com/models/SuperEagle.htm


    All in all I think they make a pretty cool guitar...
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  • LuredMaulLuredMaul
    So, today I get in what I think is going to end up to be a decent strat,for setup......Basic American Made, vintage trem, Adler body, rosewood neck, Jumbo frets!?!? ok, so after giving it a much needed bath an good polishing, polishing frets,leveling the nut (which is almost ALWAYS to high for my taste). I string it up with 10`s check the neck for truss adjustment ,tweak the nut, tune it up and intonate it. Great I'm done.....So I play it afew minutes ( uhm Houston we have a problem) and there is ZERO clear tone coming from this thing(haven't even plugged it in yet) 0K, so I tweak abit more and nothing, eh it's just a heavey body I think to myself as I plug it in(WRONG) Play afew riffs, scales( uhm DUDE. WE HAVE A WIENER) no strat T0ne what so ever is to be had from this thing just nothing but exaggerated reverb echoing from the spring chamber so I quickly shove some tissue paper into them (DIE REVERB!!!!)

    HAHA!!!!!!! now I'm getting Sound but it isn't any strat sound I've ever heard, So I strip the paper from the springs pack it up n call it done. Nothing I can do but reccomend a New Guitar to the Guy...............

    I call in the New kid to hear this cuz I know he's impressed with NAMED guitars n he looks at me n goes uhm DUDE........I smiled n reached for the Austin Strat Copy I had set-up prior to this \"BIG DOG\" n handed it to him as he imediatley busted out into full on Laughter that the Copy Sounded so much better than \"THE GUITAR\". Later on in the Day the guy picked up his guitar and straight faced said \"WOW MAN this Sounds GREAT\" what did you do? I just smiled n said MY Secret!


    Poor Guy,he must be a Bass player or something cuz no guitarist I know of would think that over priced piece of Boat ore was worth calling a guitar. but another satisfied customer *shrug*
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