Collaboration at a distance

ore-gone · October 2005

Hi,
Great forum. My two brothers and I each just got a gnx4 and we would like to add to each others work. Without physically mailing cf cards or cd's with tracks, (we're very impatient), how do we get these large files back and forth?

Thanks and we really appreciate all of you who take the time to teach in this way.

AlbertA · October 2005

Make them mp3's.

ore-gone · October 2005

Yeah, we can easily send mp3's...but then you can't load them into pro tracks and edit change whatever each individual track or add another track. Or maybe we're doing it wrong?

KiLLiN-TiMe · October 2005

You could zip them so they are one file or save your project with the wav's included then send them through ...

www.yousendit.com

It is a free website for sending large files up to 1 gig.

Works Great!

HTH
KT

AtomicNinjaRobot · October 2005

I just saw this personal P2P thing the other day. I haven't tried it yet, though. Here's a link: Qnext If it works as claimed, it would be great for musical collaborations.

You can share files over IM, too, I think.

KT's solution is probably the easiest, though.

HTH,

Tod

KiLLiN-TiMe · October 2005

Yea, the only problem with Peer to Peer is you have to make sure all the correct ports are open, and if your behind a fire wall or router (or have an ISP who's blocking ports), this can be a bit overwhelming unless your pretty deep into computers and networking. Plus every time you open a port... your more apt to get hacked.
The solution I suggested is the easiest. Expecially for the someone who doesn't have alot of networking skills. When your dealing with 3 people. Even if one guy knows what the hell he's doing the other two generally don't have a clue! LOL
Give that a try... I think it will work just fine as long as all of you are on broadband.

KT

thehootman · October 2005

just get a mp3 to wav converter off the net
musicmatch does it

convert the wav into mp3 then send it, then convert back to wav

there's heaps of freeware on the web that does that

AtomicNinjaRobot · October 2005

\KiLLiN-TiMe\ wrote:

Even if one guy knows what the hell he's doing the other two generally don't have a clue! LOL

That's exactly why I haven't tried it yet

-Tod

KiLLiN-TiMe · October 2005

\AtomicNinjaRobot\ wrote:

That's exactly why I haven't tried it yet

-Tod

Yea, it can be a bit fustrating trying to explain to someone how to open their router and open port number xxxx. :roll:

As far as the mp3 thing goes... everytime you convert a file, you loose something. Don't get me wrong... it will work, but the .WAV file is going to be much better.

There have been people who got into problems with timing issues because of conversions changing the timing ever so slightly. Song would start of in time but slowly work it's way out of time. :shock:

IMHO
KT

buzzby · October 2005

KT is right--every time you convert to mp3 and back, you degrade the sound quality. Better to zip the .wav files as a bundle.

Here's a site with free 1GB, POP3 e-mail.

http://www.nerdshack.com/

AlbertA · October 2005

\ore-gone\ wrote:

Hi,
Great forum. My two brothers and I each just got a gnx4 and we would like to add to each others work. Without physically mailing cf cards or cd's with tracks, (we're very impatient), how do we get these large files back and forth?

Thanks and we really appreciate all of you who take the time to teach in this way.

So there's two options, convert all the tracks to mp3 and make a text file annotating at what times each of them start and send that to the other persons.

The other option is to Save your project as type \"CakeWalk Bundle\" under the save as type field. Then get the program 7-zip and tell your buddies to get it as well (it's free, http://www.7-zip.org/ ). Choose the 7-zip format when compressing the cakewalk bundle file (it compresses better than Winzip). Go to http://www.yousendit.com/ and upload the file (hopefully it will be less than 1 gig) and be patient. Tell your buddies where to get the file.

AtomicNinjaRobot · November 2005

An update-if anyone cares...

I finally tried out that Qnext personal P2P program that I mentioned above with a friend of mine. I'm using Linux (SimplyMEPIS) and he's using Windows XP. I installed the software on my machine, opened the specified ports on my router, and was good to go in few minutes. My friend was able to browse my files and download junk from my shared folders at will

The bad part is that I think he doesn't have the program set up correctly, because I can't download from him. However he can upload files to my folders, so it's really not a big deal. I can browse his folders and just tell him to send me specific things. As an experiment I had him upload The Killers CD to my folder. It took about 5 minutes for the whole CD (mp3@192k-not WAV) to upload.

I of course deleted the files immediately after successful transmission because sharing copyrighted material over Al Gore's Interweb is wrong

So there you have it, not a bad solution for collaborating if you don't mind getting a bit geeky with port forwarding and firewall configuration

8)

Thanks for reading my blog
:roll:

-Tod

KiLLiN-TiMe · November 2005

\AtomicNinjaRobot\ wrote:

I of course deleted the files immediately after successful transmission because sharing copyrighted material over Al Gore's Interweb is wrong

Thanks for reading my blog
:roll:

-Tod

LMAO

KT

Tal Rules · November 2005

Here's a web site which will allow you to send files up to 1 gig in length...
ODB turned me on to this. Pretty Cool... 8)

Link is:
http://www.yousendit.com/

As Long as the .wav files are under a gig you can easily transfer files back and forth. Once you have uploaded the file you want to send, the recepient will receive an email notification that there is a file on the yousendit site waiting to be downladed. Go to the yousendit site and download the file. Then just load the .wav file into pro tracks, or whatever mixing software you're using, get your perfect mix and then encode to mp3...

Yousendit will leave the file on it's site for 7 days... You can upload as many files as you want as long as each individual file is under a gig in length.

Just my 2 cents,
Tal

lespaulbb · November 2005

you could just create an FTP server. needs no ports open. use this
serv-u

iliace · November 2005

Rather than making MP3s, just compress the WAV files using zip or rar. The extra-high compression setting will take up less room than an MP3, usually.

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