Studio 2.7 Patch is up

DHawthorne wrote: »

There is an updated NS 2.7 on the WebUpdate client. The search box issues are fixed, and as near as I can tell, the multiple workspace ones as well ... but I don't regularly use that, so I don't know for sure what to look for there.

~shudder~

So, is this a 1) install origianl 2.7, then 2) install patch or just a new installer?

Its a full package for 2.7 Build 226 on WebUpdate

Thanks, I think I will wait

GSLogic wrote: »

Spoke (typed) to soon.

If you have Workscape 1 open and you do a find/replace, works fine.
Open a 2nd Workscape, enter a NEW word for find/replace and NS thinks you are still looking for the previous word from the 1st workscape?????

~Insert funny trombone sound here~
whaaamp whaaamp whaaaaaaaa...

GSLogic wrote: »

Spoke (typed) to soon.

If you have Workscape 1 open and you do a find/replace, works fine.
Open a 2nd Workscape, enter a NEW word for find/replace and NS thinks you are still looking for the previous word from the 1st workscape?????

Just ran into that myself.. Look's like it's not just different workspaces. Find/Replace always looks for the last thing you did a FIND for. So you have to FIND the word, and then FIND/REPLACE.

Fortunately, if you do a FIND for 'VARIABLE' and then do a find/replace for 'APPLE' - 'ORANGE' it will not find anything when you hit REPLACE ALL. It will keep finding 'VARIABLE' and let you replace it with 'ORANGE' one by one though.

Kevin D.

So, what else is screwed up besides the find/replace stuff already mentioned.

1. Now the dialog window has a "help" button on it. It used to be that the lowest button on the window right was "Close". Now, there is a help button there. Today I unintentionally brought up a help window about 50 times. This is, to me, very frustrating.

2. It used to be that when you hit <cntrl>F the window would show up with the "Find What" dialog automatically selected and you could start typing in the search string right away. This is now snafu and if you start typing without clicking the "Find What" dialog box first, unintended consequences ensue.

After using a software suite such as Netlinx Studio for a while, you become accustomed to how it works. Certain actions become second nature. When I want to search for a string, I am accustomed to hitting <cntrl>F, typing in the string, hitting a <CR> and having the software find the string. The user doesn't even consciously think about this sequence of actions. It's like learning how to type or play the piano or guitar. The actions become coded down their in the lizard area of the brain. Changing how the dialog works is like re--arranging the keys on your keyboard, mixing up all the black and white keys on a piano, or tuning a guitar in a manner that the player is not familiar with.

Please, when the engineers/developers go back into studio to fix the gross and disgusting situation with find/replace, can they remove that stupid, worthless help button and return the behavior of the search dialog to that which existed prior to all this fumbling about?

The !new! HELP button drives me crazy too.
If you need help use the top menu.

JJ: out-sourced to Indian, ha-ha, who would ever do a thing like that?

To be honest - I wasn't even thinking it was off-shores. Perhaps someone in Montana is writing - I was just raising the question for us to ask: where are the problems coming from? I would imagine that if it was done in-house, there wouldn't be so many issues. But now that I think about it, I know with 100% certainty that particular "things" that we use nearly everyday are not written in house, and let's say those work much, much better than NS2.7 - so who knows, maybe it is written in-house.

I that if the original writers are reading this, or if this is able to get back to the original developers, that they shouldn't take this personally. I have nothing against the developers on a personal level, I just hope they could get the code straightened out, and fixed. I have an idea: instead of moving forward with what they've already developed, how about they step back a few steps to 2.6 and develop from that code base? I really think that if this continues (buggy releases after buggy releases) it's time for AMX to bite the bullet and go with an Eclipse version.

avi_dave wrote: »

ill wait till the guinea pig versions are str8ned out, they should of said BETA instead of a solid 2.7 and handed it off to advanced programmers to test and give them feedback, ill stay with 2.6 most stable!! Thats my 2 centz.....

I've been calling 2.7 '2.8 beta' around the office.

mpullin wrote: »

I wonder if the latest versions of NS2 have been flawed because there is secret under the table work going on for... NS3!

Oh I wouldn't doubt it one bit. But that is still no reason to "forget" NS2. The end does not justify the means in this case. I won't be using anything other than 2.6 until it's all fixed; I'll let AMX do its thing in trying to get it fixed, and I'll keep doing mine with 2.6. You can compare all these shenanigans to a surgeon operating on an arm when the patient needs a triple bypass.

shr00m-dew wrote: »

I'm pretty sure if I cut smaller then the dimensions it is not going to fit.

To be fair, you can't un-cut a hole, if they're talking about cutting the hole prior to receiving the unit, it would seem smarter to make the hole smaller so you could cut more if the unit turns out to be as spec'd or bigger, whereas if the unit is smaller than spec'd and you've cut out the hole exactly, you have extra space... then again I'm not an installer so maybe I'm missing something here... Doesn't show much confidence in the accuracy of the specs though...

Can the staff at AMX please give me an idea when they are going to post the fix for the fix for NS2.7.
People that use the software 16to22 hours a day (must sleep a little) are wasting time and money and the baby needs new shoes!
Can't you just fix the FIND/REPLACING and post it?

I actually had it in hand and was reading the install guide from the box. Thanks for the info just in case though. Just found the sentence odd. I would like to see templates included in the box though. Would make it a little easier..

Kevin D.

Okay, so since it was put up on the website to download, should I assume AMX isn't going to be releasing any fixes until 2.8?

BTW - I'm still waiting for my beta invitation.

So 2.5 and 2.6 are...

......still the only reasonably viable solutions?

Just glad that AMX didn't have a hand in natural selection, I'd NOT look good as a Neanderthal.

Note:AMX personnel have been conspicuously absent from this thread for a while..... Very Telling.

--The Inventor of Skepticism